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posted 01-09-10 01:54 PM CT (US)   


Dododo dooooo dooooo dododooodoooooo doooo!


Status: Night 2

Alive
06. Azur Mozzarella Man
07. Guard of Olympus Herr Elessar
08. DragonQ Abhaas Periagil
09. Ashrzr
10. Andrew Ryan
11. sneaky_squirrel THYMOLE
12. Blatant VII

Dead
01. Beelzebub (Friend of Old; Cop)
02. B Sull (Nacht Jaeger; Mafia Roleblocker)
03. Peter Fallon (Hnossa; Noble Politician Lover)
04. Nude L (A Banned User; Masonic Tracker)
05. Newt_Gunray (Catabre; Mafia Informed One-Shot Assassin)

Rules:
  • Do not edit your posts - double post if necessary. Once is fine, but if it happens multiple times, you may be mod-killed.
  • Do not reveal any information after your character has died.
  • This game is closed communication - talk within this thread only, unless your role specifically states otherwise.
  • Do not quote my emails. Paraphrase.
  • No talking/strategizing during the night, unless your role specifically states otherwise.
  • Follow HG's CoC
  • During the day, players can vote to lynch. To cast your vote type Vote: Name. Be sure to bold it!
  • If you change your vote, type Unvote: Name before your new vote. Otherwise, I'll ignore your new vote.

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon

    [This message has been edited by Rotaretilbo (edited 04-11-2011 @ 05:05 AM).]

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    posted 01-09-10 01:57 PM CT (US)     1 / 223  
    With the Separatist movement bringing turmoil to the Galactic
    Republic, many have gathered at Coruscant. As the sun sets,
    none understand just how soon trouble will strike.


    It is Night 0.
    Send night actions to lollersquirrelz@gmail.com

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon

    [This message has been edited by Rotaretilbo (edited 01-24-2010 @ 02:12 PM).]

    posted 01-16-10 11:11 AM CT (US)     2 / 223  
    Has this game been abandoned?

    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
    I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
    Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
    There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
    But you can't take the sky from me...
    posted 01-16-10 03:30 PM CT (US)     3 / 223  
    No. It's just that a handful of people didn't realize it started, because they're forgetful or not observant.

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon
    posted 01-16-10 04:28 PM CT (US)     4 / 223  
    Many were present during the meeting, and it was agreed that
    the Jedi should be sent to deal with the Separatist forces. A
    Banned User found himself separated from his master. He beeped
    and whirred, killing a few droids with various tools he was
    equipped with. That was when a red light saber seemed to grow
    from his body. Sparking, A Banned User powered down for the
    last time.


    A Banned User (NomadicNoodle), a masonic tracker, has been killed.
    It is now Day 1.
    There are 11 of you, so it is 6 to lynch.

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon
    posted 01-16-10 05:22 PM CT (US)     5 / 223  
    Damn!

    ~Guard of Olympus ~
    _______________________________________
    Jag ser mot solen och tankarna de för mig hem till AomH SD igen
    Learn how to create a website from scratch!
    _______________________________________
    Dark Times|My work (4.6)|Teaser #2
    posted 01-16-10 11:28 PM CT (US)     6 / 223  
    Okay, so Noodle is the one who got killed, and not ABU. I was thinking Banned died for a minute.

    Personally, I think whoever his mason partner was should come out. A confirmed townie this early in the game would be great, and the doctor can just protect him.

    EE forever
    posted 01-16-10 11:30 PM CT (US)     7 / 223  
    The mason partner is probably me (character-wise.) I couldn't see ABU being a mason with anyone else, but you never know.

    EE forever
    posted 01-16-10 11:42 PM CT (US)     8 / 223  
    Okay, so Noodle is the one who got killed, and not ABU. I was thinking Banned died for a minute.
    *looks around*

    Is ABU even playing in this game?

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon
    posted 01-16-10 11:47 PM CT (US)     9 / 223  
    I don't believe so, I haven't looked at the list of players.

    EE forever
    posted 01-17-10 00:55 AM CT (US)     10 / 223  
    WHY DO PEOPLE KILL ME ON NIGHT 0 NOW

    Gahhhhh.
    posted 01-17-10 07:00 AM CT (US)     11 / 223  
    Personally, I think whoever his mason partner was should come out.
    This is a good idea. Masons are only targets because they can strategize in private.


    Vote: Beelzebub

    Scum.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-17-10 08:40 AM CT (US)     12 / 223  
    Vote: Beelzebub

    Scum.
    Explain?

    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
    I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
    Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
    There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
    But you can't take the sky from me...
    posted 01-17-10 08:54 AM CT (US)     13 / 223  
    Well, I'm Ashrzr, a mason.

    ~Guard of Olympus ~
    _______________________________________
    Jag ser mot solen och tankarna de för mig hem till AomH SD igen
    Learn how to create a website from scratch!
    _______________________________________
    Dark Times|My work (4.6)|Teaser #2
    posted 01-17-10 02:35 PM CT (US)     14 / 223  
    Vote: Beelzebub

    Scum.
    Explain?
    I second this, I am pretty sure XZY has a reason behind this semi random vote.

    The Gods have left us, therefore making the old world crumble and turn into ashes...

    But as the gods return, from the ashes of the old world, shall rise a more beautiful and powerful new world, and life will begin once more, if they hadn't closed...dang you ES.
    posted 01-17-10 04:00 PM CT (US)     15 / 223  
    *looks around*

    Is ABU even playing in this game?
    Why, of course I am!

    Vote: Ashrzr

    "Banned is a beautiful, beautiful man. Visit BfME2H, EEH, or DoFH if you want to see more of this wonder." - Blatant
    "I'VE ABANDONED MY CHILD" - Ashrzr defending himself from paedophile charges.

    Scenario designer for Empire Earth and Empire Creations
    1st July 1916, The Somme (4.6), The Long Road to France (4.8) and A Place Called Waterloo (4.8)
    President of EEH, alongside Ashrzr (FILM DUDE!)
    posted 01-17-10 04:12 PM CT (US)     16 / 223  
    You! Go update Resrvoir Dogs! NAO!

    "Also, I'm no clearer on what WIFOM is really, although I gather it's something to do with Thymole being gay..." -Sassenach
    "I don't lie in my claims and I don't intend to." -WeeMicky
    "OH MY GOD A DINOSAUR" -Peter Fallon
    posted 01-17-10 10:21 PM CT (US)     17 / 223  
    Only Beelzebub would kill Noodle, unless someone framed him. But I believe I'm the only one here who could come to this conclusion.

    So, me or him.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-17-10 10:22 PM CT (US)     18 / 223  
    Discounting random choice, but any decent mafia team never kills at random.

    The chances that Beelzebub is scum is significant enough for me to place my own life on it, even without hearing anything from him

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-18-10 03:14 AM CT (US)     19 / 223  
    No no no, your life is important. My life is important, so you stop epic failing. I am sane enough to know to target Rot > Count > Xzyiothe > Blatant > Noodle > Azur > Shanks (If all else fails, choose an Orange > Red > Green) , but I won't even bother arguing since it's all WIFOM and metagaming.
    Only Beelzebub would kill Noodle, unless someone framed him.
    I would say you, but it can't be you.

    I don't have a penis - Ashrzr | What, ash has a penis - Blatant | no, I lie no longer - Ashrz
    Proof that Noodle is a typical tea-drinking British
    don't I have enough nicknames already - Revenge | no, you need more - Jack | says the tea drinking British! - Revenge | yes, say i. - Jack
    Enlightenment is only one click away
    posted 01-19-10 10:06 AM CT (US)     20 / 223  
    Only Beelzebub would kill Noodle, unless someone framed him. But I believe I'm the only one here who could come to this conclusion.

    So, me or him.
    So it's just metagaming then? In that case, I shall ignore you.

    Vote: Briguy

    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
    I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
    Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
    There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
    But you can't take the sky from me...
    posted 01-19-10 03:47 PM CT (US)     21 / 223  
    Yeah, I don't like the whole 'It was X because only X would kill Y' thing. It might be right, but we shouldn't be basing stuff on that yet without more solid evidence.

    The Marvellous Mr Gunray!
    "Perhaps the kill came from Newt. But that would have to mean he targeted himself, which I doubt." - Ash
    "His posts are a prime example of promulgated intelligence, and yet within his staggering vocabulary, there is little, if any comprehensible meaning to be found." - Tonto_Johnlee
    "And trust me, he has indeed made my kitchen all the saucier." - Xaph
    "Newt is the epitome of what HGers should strive to be." - Mozzy
    posted 01-19-10 05:10 PM CT (US)     22 / 223  
    Unvote

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-20-10 00:46 AM CT (US)     23 / 223  
    So... I'd guess Dragon got some dirt on Briguy?
    Vote: Briguy

    I don't have a penis - Ashrzr | What, ash has a penis - Blatant | no, I lie no longer - Ashrz
    Proof that Noodle is a typical tea-drinking British
    don't I have enough nicknames already - Revenge | no, you need more - Jack | says the tea drinking British! - Revenge | yes, say i. - Jack
    Enlightenment is only one click away
    posted 01-20-10 11:58 AM CT (US)     24 / 223  
    I think it was a random vote, actually. But I don't see a better plan.

    Vote: Briguy.

    Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.
    But that does not mean that I walked alone. ~ Brandon Sanderson
    posted 01-21-10 06:44 PM CT (US)     25 / 223  
    Okay, I can really sympathize with Rot right now. Having an inactive mafia is a pathetic and degrading experience. Somebody email Briguy or something.

    EE forever
    posted 01-21-10 07:36 PM CT (US)     26 / 223  
    I had notified Rot to smack Briguy in the face. He should be coming soon; if not, I'd think it would be safe to assume that he's a mafioso stalling for time.

    I don't have a penis - Ashrzr | What, ash has a penis - Blatant | no, I lie no longer - Ashrz
    Proof that Noodle is a typical tea-drinking British
    don't I have enough nicknames already - Revenge | no, you need more - Jack | says the tea drinking British! - Revenge | yes, say i. - Jack
    Enlightenment is only one click away
    posted 01-21-10 08:02 PM CT (US)     27 / 223  
    Sorry I forgot I was in this. I'm Nacht Jaeger a RBer.

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-21-10 08:02 PM CT (US)     28 / 223  
    And I RBed Noodle last night.

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-21-10 08:09 PM CT (US)     29 / 223  
    Lies. You coulda come up with something better than the old "I blocked the only person who cannot possibly confirm whether he was blocked or not" ploy.

    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
    I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
    Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
    There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
    But you can't take the sky from me...
    posted 01-21-10 08:17 PM CT (US)     30 / 223  
    Nacht doesn't make sense as an RBer. My role makes perfect sense (well, mostly.)

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-21-10 08:54 PM CT (US)     31 / 223  
    I can prove myself if you want, let's see how the day goes and I'll RB the scummiest person tonight.

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-21-10 08:56 PM CT (US)     32 / 223  
    @Xzy, who would make sense as an RBer in your opinion? I think it would be hard to pick a forumer to classify as one.

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-21-10 09:04 PM CT (US)     33 / 223  
    I can prove myself if you want, let's see how the day goes and I'll RB the scummiest person tonight.
    The only way to prove yourself is roleblocking an informative role in a Rot game. How does this help you?
    @Xzy, who would make sense as an RBer in your opinion? I think it would be hard to pick a forumer to classify as one.
    Not Nacht because he's never around.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-21-10 09:06 PM CT (US)     34 / 223  
    Seems like a half-assed attempt to make up a claim to me. His result is another clue.

    Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.
    But that does not mean that I walked alone. ~ Brandon Sanderson
    posted 01-21-10 10:37 PM CT (US)     35 / 223  
    *nods* *nods*
    Now we either lynch Briguy or let the Day go on a bit longer. And I'd choose the latter as more discussions = good and if activity dwindle, we could also have our back-up and lynch Briguy, Mr. I-RBed-A-Dead-Player. Most likely he's the killer, saying he targeted Noodle to prevent Tracker/Watcher rape; well, Noodle the Tracker is dead but his mason must be the Watcher.

    O, look, Hooky and sneaky, let's abuse them, shall we?
    Vote: Hooker

    I don't have a penis - Ashrzr | What, ash has a penis - Blatant | no, I lie no longer - Ashrz
    Proof that Noodle is a typical tea-drinking British
    don't I have enough nicknames already - Revenge | no, you need more - Jack | says the tea drinking British! - Revenge | yes, say i. - Jack
    Enlightenment is only one click away
    posted 01-22-10 10:34 AM CT (US)     36 / 223  
    @Xzy, who would make sense as an RBer in your opinion? I think it would be hard to pick a forumer to classify as one.
    Briguy's got a good point here.

    Nacht is not as inactive as you think. He posts often in BFME2H and less often at EEH. He doesn't play mafias anymore though, I don't think, which is why it's interesting that he's, so far, apparently included in this one.

    And I have to say, all he had to do was not claim as a roleblocker, and then have to cover himself by saying he blocked the only person who's dead, if he was scum. Surely he wouldn't make it that hard on himself. But who knows, it's Briguy who doesn't play mafia that much IIRC.
    The only way to prove yourself is roleblocking an informative role in a Rot game. How does this help you?
    If he roleblocked the scummiest person, that means there's a chance he's roleblocking the person with a kill. And if the kill fails then that proves Briguy and also gives us an excellent lead. It's not just by blocking informative roles that we find out if a roleblocker is telling the truth.

    EE forever
    posted 01-22-10 05:06 PM CT (US)     37 / 223  
    Thank you Ash for using some common sense. It's not my fault I happened to RB Noodle, I had no idea he'd die, infact I picked him because I assumed he would be protected, because people like killing Noodle all the time.

    RBer's are obviously a useful role, it would be a shame to lose one so early in the game.

    As for who to pressure next, I think Beelz would be a good target, he got off the hook from RCing the 1st time, and now he is the one leading the pressuring, most likely so he wont be the one who's pressured. Plus if Beelz is scum, we can keep in mind that it was DragonQ who deflected the pressure off him. Sounds like a pretty good lead to me.

    Vote: Beelzebub

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-22-10 05:12 PM CT (US)     38 / 223  
    because people like killing Noodle all the time.
    It's so true.
    posted 01-22-10 05:35 PM CT (US)     39 / 223  
    infact I picked him because I assumed he would be protected, because people like killing Noodle all the time.
    How does this make sense?

    Vote: Briguy

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-22-10 05:58 PM CT (US)     40 / 223  
    infact I picked him because I assumed he would be protected, because people like killing Noodle all the time.
    How does this make sense?
    Yeah, I was just thinking that. I think you're confused, Briguy.

    Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.
    But that does not mean that I walked alone. ~ Brandon Sanderson
    posted 01-22-10 05:59 PM CT (US)     41 / 223  
    lol

    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
    I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
    Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
    There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
    But you can't take the sky from me...
    posted 01-22-10 06:09 PM CT (US)     42 / 223  
    How does this make sense?
    Because if he was protected, he wouldn't have died, ergo I wouldn't be in the situation I am right now with people bitching "lol ur scum cuz the guy u RBed died on the first night!!!". I don't get how it doesn't make sense...

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-22-10 06:17 PM CT (US)     43 / 223  
    Because if he was protected, he wouldn't have died, ergo I wouldn't be in the situation I am right now with people bitching "lol ur scum cuz the guy u RBed died on the first night!!!". I don't get how it doesn't make sense...
    So instead of targeting potential scum to try and block a kill, you targeted Noodle in the hopes that he wouldn't die and would therefore make you less suspicious?

    Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.
    But that does not mean that I walked alone. ~ Brandon Sanderson
    posted 01-22-10 06:19 PM CT (US)     44 / 223  
    Wait...Noodle was a mason. So he probably told his mason partner whether his track worked or not.

    Yes, I began my journey alone, and I ended it alone.
    But that does not mean that I walked alone. ~ Brandon Sanderson
    posted 01-22-10 06:28 PM CT (US)     45 / 223  
    Because if he was protected, he wouldn't have died, ergo I wouldn't be in the situation I am right now with people bitching "lol ur scum cuz the guy u RBed died on the first night!!!". I don't get how it doesn't make sense...
    Because that's never what I think about when I'm a roleblocker?
    Wait...Noodle was a mason. So he probably told his mason partner whether his track worked or not.
    I doubt it.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-22-10 06:28 PM CT (US)     46 / 223  
    So instead of targeting potential scum to try and block a kill, you targeted Noodle in the hopes that he wouldn't die and would therefore make you less suspicious?
    Just cause he was protected doesn't mean he's not scum, so it's not like I was trying to RB a town role, I just didn't want the guy I RBed to die.
    Wait...Noodle was a mason. So he probably told his mason partner whether his track worked or not.
    Hopefully, but I doubt Rot would even send back any results at all to a dead player, I could be wrong though.

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-22-10 06:33 PM CT (US)     47 / 223  
    I just didn't want the guy I RBed to die.
    Roleblockers never worry about this.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-22-10 06:39 PM CT (US)     48 / 223  
    Roleblockers never worry about this.
    Wow just because you do something a certain way doesn't mean everyone does it that way, I have my own strategies of using my roles. Just let me prove myself tonight and let's drop this until tomorrow.

    I need to think of a new sig.
    posted 01-22-10 06:42 PM CT (US)     49 / 223  
    No. They never worry about it. Not just me.

    Popular strategies?

    1) Roleblock someone, more the information the better off the town will be
    2) Roleblock someone in anticipation to make them claim. Waiting till day 2 with a double-roleblock works if there's no other leads.
    3) Abstain, no information. No chance at a failed kill. Least common move.

    Afaik there's no number 4 in any game I've been in so far. Personally, I do number 1, but see number 2 quite common.

    ☭ Long live the Turk ☭
    "Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
    "Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
    posted 01-22-10 06:51 PM CT (US)     50 / 223  
    Also, proving your ability does not prove your allegiance.

    Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
    I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
    Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
    Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
    There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
    But you can't take the sky from me...
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