lol

Edit: Nice thinking .

[This message has been edited by Grün (edited 09-07-2005 @ 05:02 PM).]

yeah very nice thinking, have you tested it?

[This message has been edited by battlestar000 (edited 09-07-2005 @ 06:52 PM).]

I haven't tested it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

By the way, along these lines has anyone thought of a conga line of npcs? Just for giggles, like.

[This message has been edited by greyshark (edited 09-07-2005 @ 06:58 PM).]

lol, that would be funny.

sometimes the editor's whacky, so nothing could be said for sure without some form of testing.

and ditto about the congo line.

The player could be the person at the head of the conga line.

this just made me envision an rpg with a long congo line following the main char, wherever he goes, lol.

that... would... be... AWSOME! I will make it rightaway!

Nice idea. I made a similar think some weeks ago when I was working on the 4th map of my incoming campaign to make an enemy ballista bombing a human player fortress. In fact the target of this military engine was not a static object but a pegasus make smaller that continued patrolling an area that had to be bombed. In this way the missiles of the ballista reached different and random points of the stronghold. Unfortunately this system works well only with 2 ballistas otherwise the game will lag like hell (at least on my comp)...

very nice idea greyshark.

regards

@Oscar, Another idea is to have the pegasus following the player. The timer for the 'following' trigger means the pegasus will be lagging behind the player as he is moving, but at the player when he is still.

This gives the effect of the ballista being slow at aiming at the player.

and that has been the basis for many dodgable spells in my upcoming rpg.

[This message has been edited by battlestar000 (edited 09-08-2005 @ 09:53 AM).]

I've just tried out the conga line idea. Everyone behind the collosus got lagged behind because he was walking so slowly, Ornlu the wolf kept wanting to turn back, and the walking palm and wadjet didn't even know they were even in a conga line. Ah well, I think Kronos was having a good time though.

It was going well until I wanted to go home. The conga line followed me all the way home and then into my bathroom. It's been 9 days now and they're still always behind me. I've tried crossing busy streets to kill 'em off but only the monkey got run over and I quite liked him. Any ideas?

[This message has been edited by greyshark (edited 09-09-2005 @ 10:27 AM).]

lol that's quite good.

If some of the units kept wanting to turn back, you might want to use a condition "unit distance >=1" with the looped effect of move to unit.

I think the conga line would be greatly improved if the units were to stop when they reach their unit, instead of clambering around their unit in an attempt to get to the exact spot their unit is standing in.

I suppose this could be done with 2 triggers for each unit, conditions unit distance <1 and unit distance >=1.

Anyway, that's enough about conga lines now, eh?

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I'm not sure what flying units you're talking about, but if you use gaia birds (e.g. vulture), you don't need them to move to one another. Birds always patrol the map randomly.

So, just one bird, and one looping trigger per unit: move [insert unit here] to [insert bird here]. A condition "timer 30 seconds" will reduce the lag and still look good.

For other units you can use the same bird, but different timers - this way it won't look like they all follow the same bird. Or you can use several birds - one bird per unit.

@Archaeopterix, I don't think you quite understand. What would happen is on the first run of the trigger, the npc will move to the spot that the first flying unit is currently in (i.e. the first waypoint). At the same time, the first flying unit will move to the spot that the second flying unit is in (second waypoint). Also, note that the flying unit at the final waypoint moves the spot currently occupied by the npc (the start/final waypoint). On the trigger's next run, the npc and flying units all change places again.

Imagine a conga line where there is no end to it, it is a circular conga line. This is what the system is. Now if you imagine that only one of these people is visible, it would look as though that person is moving round in a circular pattern, but definitely not following anyone. I hope this analogy helps you understand.

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I didn't want to specify a specific flying unit, because that may cause confusion in that people may believe only the specified flying unit can be used. Any flying unit can be used.

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Good point. This would make the npc wander about the map aimlessly though; my idea was to give them waypoints to move to so their movement is controlled.

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This would look a bit pathetic to be honest, having a group of npcs all walking in the same direction and jostling to be in first place.

Thanks for reading.

Yeah I completely understood your idea, but I gave a suggestion to - imo - improve it. Because you still need several flying units for one unit, and do triggers for all of those. Besides, it won't look 'random' at all: it'll look like a boring circular motion.

So, instead of this, just use a gaia bird and use that as your waypoint.

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And that's why I said:

"For other units you can use the same bird, but different timers - this way it won't look like they all follow the same bird."
You see, because at different times, the birds (waypoints, in this case) are at different spots. Thus with different timers, units will walk to different locations, and only sometimes they will walk to approximately the same area - which looks natural.

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Allright, I just wanted to make sure that you DIDN'T mean gaia birds (e.g. vulture).

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Yep in that case your solution is better (but nearly as much work as the old system, and without the extra units). Anyway, I always love randomised things

I've just had a bloody good thought. If one were to teleport one of the flying units (waypoints) to a new position, then this new waypoint would be accepted. What I'm saying is that an advantage of my system is that waypoints can altered ingame.