And to go along with it... DGDN is presenting a Europe map created by me. Oh course it isnt as good as the World map so we waited for it to come so we could announce both at the same time.

http://www.freewebs.com/ccz_realn/Europemap2.jpg (copy and paste) I dont understand these links.

Enjoy both maps.

CCz_Realn
DGDN_Realn

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looking good cheeZy but i have one small problem

you say it is a map of the world

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cheeZy Monkey:
"a Geographicly acurate portrait of the world"

but where the hell is Australia we do exisit you know! I didn't see it on the mini map shot you posted but apart from that it's a very good map.

Scandinavia dosnt look very good on your map but exept for that it looks exiting

no offence

Looks really fun, except we never got to play. I hope this won't be an issue anymore.

I love how the water is elevated.

It looks amazing. I don't doubt it'll be good becausew we've seen quality work in Cheezy's patch. Although I was dissapointed and personally disliked the patch I acknowledge that he worked hard for it and it did add lots of cool features.

My Friend and I are huge fans of FFAs and we have been waitign for this map for awhile!

*waits for Guerrand to coem here and be happy*

One question: A map at 400X400 lags like hell in multiplayer even with a 128k connection. Most people have a 56k connection, how will they play this map? Second, its too large. The number of players max in a game is 12, and to reduce lag they will play with like 4 or 6 or 8 max. If N.A. is the size of a 1v1 map, then one guy alone will take ages to fill N.A. The games will takes hours and hours.

What if someone decides to put 3 villies in a transport and hide them somewhere far across the world? That would be so annoying, have you thought about these issues?

Aww..no credits?

This map is great to play on, and the lag is not that horrible either (most lag in games is due to connection speed, not map size). It is also possible to win with a Wonder or by controlling all the (insert large number here) Settlements, like in a normal Supremacy game.

Very nice.

I doubt anyone'll try to control all the settlements..there's about 50

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I'm sure many more people would've gotten ticked off at me if I had only included half of australia There simply wasn't enough room, and the map as big enough already. It's a mostly geographicly currect map of the world, hows that mate

Gaurdian, the map doesn't lag much. It takes about 1-2 minutes to load the map and after that all lag is detirmined by connection and your computers power. From the tests we did, we had no problems doing 2v2s, and there wasn't much lag even though 2 of us had modems.
Yes the map is too large. Originally it was 1000x1000 tiles but I ran out of room and had to move everything to a 1300x1300 map. So yes, I technicly did start making the map from near scratch again at one point.

It's rediculous to have a 2v2 spread around the world, so I suggest that you and whoever you're playing with decide in what area to play in, such as choose to settle only in NA, or SA, or Asia etc. The map is big so that it can be replayed alot. The games don't take hours, infact the longest game we did durring all my tests (new and old) was 45 minutes. Provided that you keep to one area ofcourse.

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I haven't spent 6 months twiddling my thumbs. The computer players and the rocs are discarded 10 minutes into the game. It'll both get rid of the roc transports so people can't go hide, and also gets rid of the computer players.

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If you play like a newbie who makes 1 villager every 5 minutes then yes, it'll take you ages to fill north america.

@Shiva and company: Yes, you and the other testers who bothered to show up are mentioned in the readme

I wouldn't suggest playing this with random people. Play with friends and decide a "continent" to go to. What me and the other play-testers did was choose to North America..worked out pretty well. We had villy wars for a bit, then me and my Matei went to another location (central USA :P) and started building settlements there.

Yep, infact heres a screenshot from that game.
http://hometown.aol.com/cheezymonkey1/pics/ingame1.jpg .

That's Much Better CheeZy

btw? when will the sp verion be out?

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I'm not sure yet, but probably a while. Gotta get those AIs first ofcourse.

map is out! Get it Here!

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Very very cool map. I kinda looked at it for a while in editor first just so I knew what it looked like. Its really good.
I then decided to play it with some friends, I put in 4 comps so we'd have a 2v2, and they started to download but it was taking hours so I just transferred it to them over msn messenger and they got it much quicker, we all went back and clicked it, the words launching came up and went 5....4 then nothing happened. Just stayed there for about 20minutes and I then restarted the comp, so as much as I'd love to, I don't think Ill be playing it online cus of lag.

kudos CheeZy, kudos

Hey good work cheesy.But i cant play the multiplayer version because i dont have internet explorer 6 anymore.I had to delete it because it stuffed my links up.So i cant wait to the single player scenario comes out.And will that ai actually work? the enhanced ai doesn't work for TOS_north america.

Zycat is making an AI specially for the single player version.

This is quite spectacular. A masterpiece really, and it most designers know that a masterpiece on AoM takes agges andAGES to finish. This world map is another result of DGDN's and Cheezy's skill and dedication to their work.

The only complaint I have is lag. Like the map editor patch, lag has ruined the entire thing. A 2v2 online with a 56k modem is quite impossible. Also, we enjoy going across the word. If we wanted a 2v2 on NA only it would be so boring, why don't we just make an N.A. map? Nah, we go across the world and sometimes we can't find each other..lol. Thats amazing, I love that, but it needs more players and the lag can't support it.

Other than that, great map. Highly anticipating the single player mode.

I've had similar problems uploading my "Peloponnesian War" map via ESO. Most people get "download failed" about 6 or 7 times before they actually download the entire map. This is quite distressing since the map is a 6 player diplomacy map. That's quite a few failed downloads and re-enters. It usually takes a half hour or more to get a game going.

I love it, there is also so much less lag than I expected. Just wish we could make the map round, and you had Australia/Poles.

Scandinavia looks a little funky, man.

Can I make water that is small and really shallow in waterbodies.xml? Those little creeks are nice.

you can, and you can also make them manually with normal water. Like paint a river, then level it at a certain terrain, then paint land around the edges to make it smaller.

Yes, that just takes so long. Why would they put a limit...