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morgul666
Member

posted 12-04-07 12:08 PM EDT (US) 441 / 488

' 2)A "success" message appears after a few days regarding the opening of a rift, but I have done nothing to provoke it and do not know what it is in relation to. '

Yes - that�s the message I�m also reffering to (which also appears when you play another player as Edmond) and I also have no idea, what to make out of the message

Author of the following maps for AOWSM:
Version 1.4: DEMONWARS II (Transcendence & Immortalis)
Version 1.3: (also playable in 1.4) Gates to another World 1.4
><-><-><- Planning replaces coincidence by error. -><-><-><-

King David
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posted 12-04-07 09:02 PM EDT (US) 442 / 488

Quoted from morgul666:
I was wondering, when in all nine hells I must have been that drunk to have written such a confusing message until I figured out, that it wasn�t mine

ROFLMAO

Author of the following maps for AOWSM:

Version 1.4 - Race To Death: Rise Of Evil
Version 1.3 (also playable in 1.4) - Race to Death S&M - Walker's Crusade ====== This Land Is My Land ====== War In The Valley

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Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-04-07 10:51 PM EDT (US) 443 / 488

I have sent out version 3 for playtesting. Please do a 'am I happy?' check.

Fromage has made his changes on v3 one already (caugh him online) and the Master version of the map is now with Albaron. He'll return it before the weekend. Please let me know if you need to receive the map. I would like to finalize as much as possible in Step2 so that we can start serious play-testing on a representative map in Step 3.

Some of the changes mentioned by KD were fixed but some still need to be done. The rift messages come from the Groll and I am not sure if he fixed those yet (I did mention it in email, but he was busy these days...

).

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
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[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-04-2007 @ 11:35 PM).]

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-07-07 11:30 AM EDT (US) 444 / 488

I have start recruiting play-testers so we can start on Monday. Please try and get all the essential feedback in. There are a couple of event bugs (troglodyte, rift, etc...) I may need to fix myself if people don't get back to me before that (I will take note of them, so you can always change it back if there are mistakes).

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

fromage67
Member

posted 12-07-07 11:36 AM EDT (US) 445 / 488

I have been playtesting a game and taking much notes. I will get back to you soon.

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-07-07 12:53 PM EDT (US) 446 / 488

Any ideas for a name for the map? It probably needs to be something general. I am not feeling terribly imaginative today, but I'll bravely throw in some ideas.

How is...
1- "Worlds with too many" (= we had too many mapmakers

)
2- "Battles of Ytinummock" (= 'community spelt backwards

)
3- "Rulers of Momubemia" (= MMBEM)
4- "Wizards at war" (=can't believe this mapname has not been taken yet!)

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
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My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
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The Groll
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posted 12-07-07 07:53 PM EDT (US) 447 / 488

I�m confused.
I have v. 3 here but it is not possible to play all races.
Is this not changed back in v.3? I think it should.
Is be possible to play the races again that the mapmakers wanted to play?
Syrons should be playable by human players. When played by AI it is a imperator.

And we need an intro for this map and it should be written in there the version number of the map when I open it in the game.

AoWSM Maps: 1. Marlenes Welt 2. Marlenes Schatten 3. Marlenes Gnade
Up.1.4 Maps: 4. Secrets of Marlenia (UPatch 1.4 Map - update) 5. Gates of Elocin - Part I (Mapmaking Competition - Winning Map) 6. David�s Winter Wonderland 7. Fairy Wedding
8. Marlene�s_Laughter 9. The Gods Arena Of Magic And Power 10. The_Wilderness 11. Kayland (AoW I Mod) 12. Mia-Mina_&_The_Seadrake
11. AoW I Sound Set for AoWSM 12. Gentleman Rules Set
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Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-07-07 08:31 PM EDT (US) 448 / 488

As said before (about two or three times...

), I will only change Wizards back if the designer explicitely states so. So the next version, when Albaron returns the map, will have Syrons playable.

Having Wizards AI only is a big advantage as it allows you to set AI behaviour for stacks. It also doesn't confuse players who will find a really boring and easy game when playing with some Wizards that are simply meant to be AI only (like Lord Dread, or Varg, or the Archon Wizard, for example).

Yes, an intro should be written (a name would be nice too - see above!).

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
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[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-07-2007 @ 08:36 PM).]

morgul666
Member

posted 12-08-07 06:48 AM EDT (US) 449 / 488

Hmmm...as this whole project was guided by Chaos from the very beginning

and due to the fact, that having 10 or so mapmakers working on one map, I would probably include my favourite word 'Chaos' in the mapname if it was up to me to name that thing

...

Also because there�s not really a 'master' story but rather some totally disconnected smaller 'storylines' (if one could call it so

...

Therefore, after hours of brainstorm resulting in a mental maelstrom

I came up with some poor offerings:

Realms of Chaos
Operation Chaos
Chaos wars
Lords of Chaos
Master of Chaos
Planes of Chaos
War between worlds
The Chaos Balance
Chaos without Prophecy
Kings of chaotic creation
The puzzling constellation of Chaos (my favourite

)

Feel free to ignore those thoughts

It�s hard (at least for me) to find a name for something that has no red line and no real story...

Author of the following maps for AOWSM:
Version 1.4: DEMONWARS II (Transcendence & Immortalis)
Version 1.3: (also playable in 1.4) Gates to another World 1.4
><-><-><- Planning replaces coincidence by error. -><-><-><-

The Groll
Member

posted 12-08-07 08:28 AM EDT (US) 450 / 488

I have send Swolte an event update today but I need the map for another change of teleports and landscape.
Damn silly AI.
The rift message should not come up anymore for example.
It�s a cosmic string message but that�s not important.

Swolte has the detailed fix list.

AoWSM Maps: 1. Marlenes Welt 2. Marlenes Schatten 3. Marlenes Gnade
Up.1.4 Maps: 4. Secrets of Marlenia (UPatch 1.4 Map - update) 5. Gates of Elocin - Part I (Mapmaking Competition - Winning Map) 6. David�s Winter Wonderland 7. Fairy Wedding
8. Marlene�s_Laughter 9. The Gods Arena Of Magic And Power 10. The_Wilderness 11. Kayland (AoW I Mod) 12. Mia-Mina_&_The_Seadrake
11. AoW I Sound Set for AoWSM 12. Gentleman Rules Set
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[This message has been edited by The Groll (edited 12-08-2007 @ 08:30 AM).]

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-08-07 01:50 PM EDT (US) 451 / 488

Ok, lets keep 'Master of Chaos' for now. It kinda makes sense with the opening dream as well.

Bam65 is writing a general intro, btw!

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-08-2007 @ 01:57 PM).]

hatstand
Member

posted 12-09-07 08:22 AM EDT (US) 452 / 488

well everything seems to be going smoothly... ive just returned from a week long school trip.... will try and get some time to playtest it in this weeks lack of school...

fromage67
Member

posted 12-09-07 04:56 PM EDT (US) 453 / 488

Just finished a play-test, here are my notes as sent to Swolte:

- Why are several of CPU players set to CPU lord? Any advantage to this I don't know about?

- Much better and less confusing starting messages. In my two previous test games, I had never figured out the "strange feeling" quest. The start is much, much improved and more satisfying.

- 500 starting mana points seems a bit much.

- I don't get the Troglyguild prison event message on day 4.

- Got the "Success" event on day 7. A bit clearer, but still obscure. Boils down to :"Go north with 1000 mana", as far as I can tell. Repeats on days 8 and 19.

- Srr'ak's town of Arrar Shan seems completely static. Maybe it would be preferable to remove the indies from that tower in the mountain pass, at least in SP games. And also Srrakk's red dragon in the mountains just to the east of it is immobile for some reason.

- One thing I really like is the multiple options for starting strategies. In this game I targeted an alliance with Srrakk and colonized the ruined town west of my starting point. That way I can readily seize Lucrezia's towns and instantly use them since they are of same alignment. I could have had a better game had I not played so poorly. My position is fine, though.
In my second test game, I headed mainly south, and that is perhaps a safer strategy. That way I could calmly pick off the tigran area, and build a strong power base there. It takes a little patience but the payoff is very good. The down side is that it is much harder to hang on to the starting area. I am sure that there are several other tacks one could take.

- When I finally approached Lord Dread with a zephyr bird on day 38, he was of Great reputation and promptly zapped my bird with 2 consecutive death storms. Not very efficient, but impressive!

- Oops! Got too cocky, and as of day 40, a demon fire bug queen and her retinue just popped out of the underground near Edmond's tower and is menacing his life. he will have to run for it, and hope Varg is not too determined.

- Map is looking much better from Edmond's perspective.

- I sent three save games to swolte.

[This message has been edited by fromage67 (edited 12-09-2007 @ 04:59 PM).]

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-10-07 03:03 AM EDT (US) 454 / 488

Thanks, more study material!

Excellent suggestion and glad to see that things are working well. Will implement shortly.

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
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Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-10-07 03:13 PM EDT (US) 455 / 488

Ok, I received the map from Albaron and it will be sent to the Groll shortly.

- Changed AI to Emperor
- Llorg has been made playable by humans
- Added a start event for Edmund
- Reduced starting money and mana.
- Some more areas made better reachable for AI
- Mannzak had about 20+ recruitment sites which might prove a little too easy. Reduced somewhat.

- Srr'ak's town of Arrar Shan seems completely static. Maybe it would be preferable to remove the indies from that tower in the mountain pass, at least in SP games. And also Srrakk's red dragon in the mountains just to the east of it is immobile for some reason.

The dragon is on guard-area.

One thing I really like is the multiple options for starting strategies. In this game I targeted an alliance with Srrakk and colonized the ruined town west of my starting point. That way I can readily seize Lucrezia's towns and instantly use them since they are of same alignment. I could have had a better game had I not played so poorly. My position is fine, though.

Great, I do find that the east is less explored.
- Added a small Lizard village in the swamp to the east + story event (It's too obvious to go west right away).

In my second test game, I headed mainly south, and that is perhaps a safer strategy. That way I could calmly pick off the tigran area, and build a strong power base there. It takes a little patience but the payoff is very good. The down side is that it is much harder to hang on to the starting area. I am sure that there are several other tacks one could take.

Btw, the Tigran village you had was not connected (on island) and so two AI heroes and troops were stuck on there for 40 turns.
- I made a bridge!

- When I finally approached Lord Dread with a zephyr bird on day 38, he was of Great reputation and promptly zapped my bird with 2 consecutive death storms. Not very efficient, but impressive!

Great, he seems to do differently every game. I saw in this game he had captured the middle of the map already.

- I sent three save games to swolte.

Thanks, studying the AI, I must say my initial concerns on the southern side of the map largely remain. Llorg's AI is pretty much inactive and just builds troops (but hopefully the Groll will fix some of this and the movement bugs will go). Matron's AI still hasn't come out of his area at turn 40 and fails to provide pressure on Edmund from the south (which would be great), though the situation has improved somewhat.

---> Map to Groll!

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-10-2007 @ 03:15 PM).]

fromage67
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posted 12-10-07 03:28 PM EDT (US) 456 / 488

Btw, the Tigran village you had was not connected (on island) and so two AI heroes and troops were stuck on there for 40 turns.
- I made a bridge!

Damned AI won't make a boat to save its life... *sigh* OK Thanks.

The dragon is on guard-area.

But, but, .... It is Srrakk's dragon, not an indie. (Witness newbie map-maker learning...)

Great, I do find that the east is less explored.
- Added a small Lizard village in the swamp to the east + story event (It's too obvious to go west right away).

Yeah, there is a road to the west, so it just makes more sense to go there. But then again, there are many starting strategies with such a central starting point, so it takes many test games to explore them all.

Thanks for the feedback.

The Groll
Member

posted 12-10-07 09:39 PM EDT (US) 457 / 488

Many more changes done.
New tunnels, teleporters, AI help, Stop Movement bugs removed - hopefully.
Swolte has the map now.

AoWSM Maps: 1. Marlenes Welt 2. Marlenes Schatten 3. Marlenes Gnade
Up.1.4 Maps: 4. Secrets of Marlenia (UPatch 1.4 Map - update) 5. Gates of Elocin - Part I (Mapmaking Competition - Winning Map) 6. David�s Winter Wonderland 7. Fairy Wedding
8. Marlene�s_Laughter 9. The Gods Arena Of Magic And Power 10. The_Wilderness 11. Kayland (AoW I Mod) 12. Mia-Mina_&_The_Seadrake
11. AoW I Sound Set for AoWSM 12. Gentleman Rules Set
Need Help? The Conqueror's Fieldguide to The Groll's Universe
Proud member of the Upatch 1.4, 1.5 & 1.6 Team

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-10-07 10:31 PM EDT (US) 458 / 488

Yes, we worked well on the map!

Now, phase 3 has begun... the map has been sent out to the play-testers and you! This is the beta version.

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-15-07 07:40 PM EDT (US) 459 / 488

Ok, after the weekend we'll enter phase 4 and it would be great if everybody was able to get their feedback in by then!

I will send out the first version of the map (non beta) on Monday! We can all do a 'am I happy' -check and then I think we're ready for release before the dark Christmas days. Things look really good and the feedback has been very helpful and positive, as you can read in the play-tester thread.

Also, this is a nice time to add events that can spice up the atmosphere a bit (messages, etc...). So please provide them!

Bam65 has written a great, and general intro to get people in the mood:

You live in a chaotic world that consists of the most diabolical complexity and the simplest good. From the humblest community to cosmic habitats it�s a truly diverse planet. Wizards that wield great power vie for this world, some to bring order, others to promote the chaos. Fantastic creatures and heroic characters await you, as well as powerful magic items and terrible danger. Will you dare to reach for the stars from humble beginnings or fall to earth from those very same stars to shape the world into what you want it to be? It�s up to you to decide what path this reality will take.

There�s a halfling with big dreams who lives in this world. He�s always been laughed at for his fantasies but he doesn�t mind because there�s no reason why he shouldn�t reach for the stars from his little garden when those stars seem so close. Besides, how else can you test out all those neat tricks that a certain wizard friend taught you?

There�s also a race of magical beings led by a wise ruler that wants to explore what�s beyond their dimension. Is there other life out there, and what will it look like? Will it be so different from them? For creatures accustomed to the fantastic wouldn�t it be wonderful to find something more mundane?

Your world isn�t full of just dreamers and explorers though. It�s also filled with beings that don�t have your best interests at heart. Creatures that would rather rule over you with an iron fist than allow you the freedom to fulfill your own destiny. They are the opponents you must conquer to give the rest of the world a choice. A choice of peace and freedom or misery and subjugation!

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

fromage67
Member

posted 12-16-07 06:48 AM EDT (US) 460 / 488

I've been strapped for time, but I have played the beginning of a game with Matron Baenre.

I can't send you a save game right now, but in the first few days I have been building a monster army. I am patiently cherry-picking the huge resources in the red starting area. It is very well-designed and thought out, and fun to play, but at the very least I would remove the dominate ability from the Matron. That is very broken and is the key to quickly and easily overrunning the red start area.

Played as a human, the red player has huge advantages. He can make a patient and risk free buildup in his starting area, and then, he has a great strategic choke-point to defend in the very unlikely ability that some other wizard decides to attack him. On top of that he will eventually have four wizard towers behind the teleporter.

As a general point, can we make dominate items and abilities either non-existent, or as the reward for hard and risky quests later in the game? Same for resurrect.

morgul666
Member

posted 12-16-07 11:28 AM EDT (US) 461 / 488

hey fromage!

Good that you came up with these comments now - I just wanted to start another playtest round.
In this case, I�ll play Baenre once more as human.
(I�ve been watching her too much being played by AI recently where she�s doing quite fine up to now but maybe as human player she�s really to easy. Will check it out now and send Swolte as list (or map) with some changes.

Thanks for the feedback!

M

Author of the following maps for AOWSM:
Version 1.4: DEMONWARS II (Transcendence & Immortalis)
Version 1.3: (also playable in 1.4) Gates to another World 1.4
><-><-><- Planning replaces coincidence by error. -><-><-><-

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-16-07 01:49 PM EDT (US) 462 / 488

I agree that Matron is too easy, we might want to decrease the amount of units in the recruitment sites as well.

As a general point, can we make dominate items and abilities either non-existent, or as the reward for hard and risky quests later in the game? Same for resurrect.

Agreed (list, anyone?

).

There was also a physical immunity item in the map which I now removed. In a game I had to drop the item because it made the map too easy (nice to see all the areas though...

).

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

morgul666
Member

posted 12-17-07 01:16 PM EDT (US) 463 / 488

Did a whole bunch of changes regarding Baenre that only affect human player. Also deleted Dominate and various other feats from her capabilities - was indeed way too much!!
Also added some nice surprise random attacks in order to simulate an opponent and make her life harder (only active when player is human)

The master file is again with Swolte now.

Gernerally, I�m also absoultely against the use of Dominate items, especially combined with drain will.

Those should at least be reduced to a fair minimum if not totally cancelled. Rather use seduce or something similar which does not work on all units.

Hey guys, it looks as if were indeed able to upload our little community present duly to the holy festival (easter

)

M

Author of the following maps for AOWSM:
Version 1.4: DEMONWARS II (Transcendence & Immortalis)
Version 1.3: (also playable in 1.4) Gates to another World 1.4
><-><-><- Planning replaces coincidence by error. -><-><-><-

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-17-07 05:26 PM EDT (US) 464 / 488

Indeed!

I plan to add the following to the map description when it is uploaded. Let me know if you have any additional ideas.

------------------------------------------------------------ -
For those of you who like the challenge, I dare you to play this map in what is called "Ironman" - style. You can only play this once and it requires some more skill and scouting.

The style consists out of the following:
- You shall play the map blind (no looking at it beforehand)
- You shall not reload
- You shall not trade or make/allow peace with AI (except Syrons)
- You shall not use tricks that you consider to be serious abuses against the AI.

In your review, please let us know if you played "Ironman" and how far you came.

------------------------------------------------------------ -

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-18-2007 @ 00:51 AM).]

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-18-07 00:35 AM EDT (US) 465 / 488

Ok, check your emails as I proudly present you the last version!

There haven't been much changes but mostly the map has just become more immersing and playable. The playtesters have done a wonderful job and have sent tons of saves and feedback. A lot of it already very positive on the map. I have also received some more events from you (and made some myself).

No real new areas, except a home for the lvl20 Ankh-hero that was bugging some playtesters from day 5...

Hatstand, or myself, will upload the map on Friday or earlier!

~ S

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-18-2007 @ 00:37 AM).]

hatstand
Member

posted 12-21-07 07:37 AM EDT (US) 466 / 488

well, im not sure if im meant to upload the copy of the map i have or not, so im not going to do anything, in case i mess up....

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-21-07 10:12 AM EDT (US) 467 / 488

Yes, please await further instructions! There might be some last minute additions.

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 12-22-07 00:18 AM EDT (US) 468 / 488

I have implemented some last minute additions from Albaron and Bam65 and the map is now with Hatstand to upload. He said he was able to do it tonight!!

First all, big thanks to Hatstand for his efforts in bringing the map so far. I also want to personally thank all of you for your cooperation in wrapping up the map. I know its not been easy for everyone, but in the end, I do think we have succeeded into making a fun and memorable experience for those who play it.

I found it an interesting experience and I am very happy that I got to know some of you 'masters' out there a bit better! I certainly learned my share of mapmaking from this and I bet some of you have as well!

It does not have to end here. If people are willing to update the map with additional content, fixes and perhaps even a MP version, I think this is great (I have a feeling this map is prone to become a very popular one...). However, I won't be coordinating this daunting project (my dirty job is done...

) so we'll have to figure something out with time.

Anyway, lets have a toast!

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 12-22-2007 @ 01:05 AM).]

hatstand
Member

posted 12-22-07 00:23 AM EDT (US) 469 / 488

Uploading As I Type!

Edit: Finished Uploading.

[This message has been edited by hatstand (edited 12-22-2007 @ 00:28 AM).]

The Groll
Member

posted 12-22-07 02:08 AM EDT (US) 470 / 488

Anyway, lets have a toast!

Congratulation to us all!
We have finished it - Even before Christmas!

Let�s have a dragon rum then.

Prost!
Cheers!

AoWSM Maps: 1. Marlenes Welt 2. Marlenes Schatten 3. Marlenes Gnade
Up.1.4 Maps: 4. Secrets of Marlenia (UPatch 1.4 Map - update) 5. Gates of Elocin - Part I (Mapmaking Competition - Winning Map) 6. David�s Winter Wonderland 7. Fairy Wedding
8. Marlene�s_Laughter 9. The Gods Arena Of Magic And Power 10. The_Wilderness 11. Kayland (AoW I Mod) 12. Mia-Mina_&_The_Seadrake
11. AoW I Sound Set for AoWSM 12. Gentleman Rules Set
Need Help? The Conqueror's Fieldguide to The Groll's Universe
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morgul666
Member

posted 12-22-07 04:05 AM EDT (US) 471 / 488

but....but....

it�s not yet easter !! ?? !!

Cheerio!! we did it! yeah! Now I�m more than curious about the feedback!

Anyway: It�s more than likely, that I�ll initiate a comparable project by beg. of 08!

I already have a concept in my mind but what I simply do not have, is much time( (who has??) and therefore, I�d like to do another time-sparing mmbem thing, but probably with a smaller group of different but (hopefully) exceptionally gifted

mapmakers.

Therefore, I hope when I come along with details, that some others are interested to join in ?!

But for now - let�s see, if this goes down well!!

lbnl (my first own abbraviation invention: last but not least

)
Happy easter to all of you !!
(or what was it?!)

and

Author of the following maps for AOWSM:
Version 1.4: DEMONWARS II (Transcendence & Immortalis)
Version 1.3: (also playable in 1.4) Gates to another World 1.4
><-><-><- Planning replaces coincidence by error. -><-><-><-

logan15
Member

posted 12-27-07 11:10 AM EDT (US) 472 / 488

What happened to the final version?

hatstand
Member

posted 12-27-07 12:28 PM EDT (US) 473 / 488

its been uploaded by me. should be avaliable sometime.

and morgul... i had ruled up a perfect grid, but i lost it.

naecO
Member

posted 01-08-08 10:15 PM EDT (US) 474 / 488

Hey, I hope that you are just taking a vacation after the long hard work on the map and not forget to come back for a multiplayer version.

Tired of manually receiving/sending your PBEM turns everyday ? Try out Dave's PBEM Wrapper!

fromage67
Member

posted 01-22-08 07:17 PM EDT (US) 475 / 488

Hey folks, I read the reviews of the map, and people are liking it! Very encouraging.

However, I get bored very quick playing single-player. I like multi-player games.

There are 5 wizards remaining that aren't human playable, plus the map is not necessarily balanced for multi-player. I don't think we need to go overboard on this, we could just rate the playing experiences, (i.e. Edmond is hard, Varg is easy), so that players of different strengths can take the different slots, or so that alliances can be pre-set.

Here are the five AI wizards:

- Manzakk [Humans] [E4] [Purple] (Designed By: Kaskoid)
- Srr' Akk [Draconians] [A3] [Aqua] (Designed By: Albaron)
- Lord Dread [Undead] [E1] [Black] (Designed By: Swolte)
- Lucrezia [Archons] [B1] [White] (Designed By: Roger)
- Varg [Orcs] [A1] [Brown] (Designed By: King David)

Are any of the 5 gentlemen listed here willing to give a go at tweaking their respective wizards to make them more human playable? If not, I am willing to take over one or two of them in this effort, and would appreciate assistance from some other of the mapmakers.

I will e-mail this if this post gets little response.

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Swolte
AOWH/AOW2H Seraph

posted 01-22-08 09:14 PM EDT (US) 476 / 488

You have my blessing to tweak as much as you like!

Get the unofficial Patch v1.4. here!
My best AoW-Sm map: Drums of Death (This is the multiplayer version; for single player, or AI use different version)
Other proud AoW-sm maps: The Key of Kharzul, The Fight for Light, Waikiti Island, Goldrush Mountains
My proud AoW2 maps:The River Arne
Coordinator of the v1.4 and v1.5 patchteams, Seraph of AoWHeaven, PBEM Singles Champion 2008

[This message has been edited by Swolte (edited 01-22-2008 @ 09:15 PM).]

The Groll
Member

posted 01-23-08 01:48 AM EDT (US) 477 / 488

I am playing the map in SP this day and found errors.

I recomment that we create a system to update the map (So far I only mean the SP version).

Suggestion for Event updates. First we need a version number (so far we have v.2) of the map that is in the download section.
Then we can update events and writer the version number of the events into it (in front of every event name).
That is a chance that not everyone creates an own new SP version.
I (for my part) have found some own and some other errors or events that should be updated.

We will see of there is a way and will to stay a little professional or if this map becomes a slitted version in future. All is meant only for the SP version so far but of course this event updates can be used in a possible MP version too. If we mark this events with version numbers the guy who wants to make another version can implement them into the MP version.

Furthermore the one who wants to change terrain in this map should tell this here and take the lates version of the map. So we can avoid that two people work on the map at the same time and change terrain.
There are some ugly things inside this map that should be changed.
I think it will not work as I suggested but it�s worth a try.

Cheers

AoWSM Maps: 1. Marlenes Welt 2. Marlenes Schatten 3. Marlenes Gnade
Up.1.4 Maps: 4. Secrets of Marlenia (UPatch 1.4 Map - update) 5. Gates of Elocin - Part I (Mapmaking Competition - Winning Map) 6. David�s Winter Wonderland 7. Fairy Wedding
8. Marlene�s_Laughter 9. The Gods Arena Of Magic And Power 10. The_Wilderness 11. Kayland (AoW I Mod) 12. Mia-Mina_&_The_Seadrake
11. AoW I Sound Set for AoWSM 12. Gentleman Rules Set
Need Help? The Conqueror's Fieldguide to The Groll's Universe
Proud member of the Upatch 1.4, 1.5 & 1.6 Team

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Albaron
Member

posted 01-23-08 04:49 AM EDT (US) 478 / 488

fromage67, you've had the same idea than me.

I'm thinking about a multiplayer version as well as some changes and event additions to my two quadrants. But I was still at the preparing phase and therefore I haven't made any announcement for help working on it. I'm willing to make this able to play in MP.

The Groll is right with his comments and I agree with him.

So let's see how many entrants would like to help or what they think about our plans.

kaskoid
Member

posted 01-23-08 11:47 AM EDT (US) 479 / 488

To be honest, I designed my wizard to be playable and was a little surprised to find out that he wasn't going to be.
I think he is playable now, but have not really checked to see what, if anything, was changed. Let me know if he needs tweaking.

Arch-Enemy of the Annoyingly Dense
Practitioner of Whimsy
Celt,Finn & Swede Elder Gamer

naecO
Member

posted 04-17-08 11:54 AM EDT (US) 480 / 488

Hi,

Are people still interested in making this map available for PBEM? I get bored very soon with single player although I have explored completely the map.

Tired of manually receiving/sending your PBEM turns everyday ? Try out Dave's PBEM Wrapper!