Thanks a lot, Charlie.

Yeah, that makes the flavour argument against Minos pretty strong.

Also,
Unvote: Ensemble

Vote: Minos

Provided I survive the day, I'll throw it at the first person to disbelieve me.

I hope you're joking, because that would be cheating.

Unvote: CharlieDog

Uh huuh. I'm not REALLY going to throw it at someone, unless someone acts suspiciously. ... Someone ELSE acts suspiciously.

Minos, defend yourself.

Also, there's a good chance there's going to be next to NO time for me to make any posts in the next 36-72 hours. Maybe a quick post here and there, but nothing more.

Unvote:Ensamble

I'm not voting minos quite yet. Not only was he accused of being scum by a mafia member the flavor is a bit too obvious. I'll wait for a bit.

Um... This arm thing seems really incriminating, where exactly did it appear?

I'd rather have ensemble vig Minos as he seems kind of trigger happy.

I wouldn't be too surprised if it would take several goes to kill the Black Knight. I'm also laying bets on his claimed alignment...

The arm was mentioned in the day post today.

vote Minos
not much to argue then

Quoted from CV:

Not only was he accused of being scum by a mafia member the flavor is a bit too obvious.

1) He can be a serial player, enemy to the mafia.
2)Flavour can't be false, can it? I think mods can't lie except for the death miller.

Lynching him would be better imo. Unvote: Ensemble Vote: Minos.

For the fools who have yet to experience this piece of something-or-other:

Ok. I guess that Minos must be the black knight....but two SK? Is that normal? Or might he not be a serial killer? Might he be a survivor?

Vote:Minos

Whatever he is, I don't think it can be good. And keep in mind, he's been horribly inactive.

Has he even posted once?

I'm not sure he has.

But I say let him speak first before lynching him.

Minos' last post was on page two. Where he said I doubt the post restrcition is an IT requirement.
Details: posted 02-26-10 01:45 PM EDT (US)

That makes it a few months ago, I doubt we'll get a response, probably better to get rid of an inactive.

Vote: Minos Yewman

Unvote: CharlieDog (it seems I have to unvote twice as well.)

Yes, Minos is a good inactive to go after. With him, at least we have something to go on.

Vote: Minos Yewman

Vote: Minos Yewman

I forgot to vote twice.

And, unless I count wrong, that's it for Minos?

Hmpth. I'm betting he's a survivor if he's the Black Knight.

Further guessing- he needs to be hit like four times for him to be killed (arm, arm, leg, leg). I'm not amazingly happy- if it turns out he's a survivor, we've wasted a lynch.

Yeah he is lynched

He might be fully immune to either night kills or lynches, but I suppose we will find out now. I doubt he is a survivor.

Ensemble what are you going to do tonight?

I'm going ahead with the I told you so. Jesus, that was a waste of a lynch. If you lot believe me when I say I am a survivor and am French, why on earth do you want to go hell for leather for someone who is obviously in a similar position of ambiguous motives in the movie without first letting him speak?

Someone get Minos in here to fully claim so he doesn't end up having his last leg cut off and thus dying before he can prevent the sheep from wasting another day.

I blocked Brighty.

It's rather obvious who he is... We'll just keep on NKing him.

It's rather obvious who he is... We'll just keep on NKing him.

Yes, it's obvious he's the black knight. But why would we have scum handed on a plate to us in the flavour? Surely there should be some alarm bells ringing there that this is too easy? It's just wasted powers.

Unless your knighted vig has unlimited shots, in which case it's less so. But still.

Oh, and was that a vig strike on the Black Knight? If so, then that'd be interesting, as it means there was only one scum kill tonight.

I do wonder about this. Is the Black Knight perhaps iron in some limited way, i.e. taking more than one shot to kill?

I also tend to agree with EoJ. The fact that we are, so to speak, given the role in the flavour seems extremely easy. Making me think that, indeed, he isn't necessarily scum.

Yes, Yeeb wouldn't make it this simple for us, unless he was tired of Minos being inactive. I don't think he would do that even if he was annoyed by Minos's inactivity, though.

Minos's iron ability is probably gone now, since anything more powerful than One-Shot Unlynchable One-Shot Iron would be ridiculously overpowered. Unless he is an SK, of course.

We'll need to know if he's pro-town, and I don't think that likely. But he won't kill people; he just guards the bridge in the film.

And just a reminder: I can't vote today.

Well in gaurding the bridge he throws a sword into the green knights face and battles king Arthur. I'm pretty sure he is scum :/

Note that he may have two lives left, because who really needs limbs anyway.

It was not a waste of a lynch

The Black Knight only attacks people if they want to cross the bridge. He's not affiliated with the Knights that say 'Ni!'

King Arthur, any news? Check your mail another time.

So why is the black night good all of the sudden?

And ensamble, did you use your grenade last night? Did you shoot minos?

I did nothing. Also, the Black Knight is really, really annoying. How do you survive three bloody attempts on your life? What's the point of making it so?

So why is the black night good all of the sudden?

It was not a waste of a lynch

I didn't say he was. I'm saying I rather doubt he's anti-town, ie, killing people and has the win condition of forming a majority. Going after someone who we have reasonable grounds for putting as a survivor without letting the chap even speak is plain stupid when we've got at least one Knight of Ni running around stabbing things and another possible thus so far unidentifiable assailant.

I'd be amazed if the Black Knight wasn't a survivor. After all, he's still alive when Arthur leaves him in the movie. If that isn't 'surviving', I don't know what is.

Well he isn't a townie. I don't think that logic is correct newt. The knights who say ni don't die either, nor so they even try to kill Arthur.

Where is blatant? We pressured him once before and he popped in and then left again.

I have checked your Email WRP, it interests me, but I think we should peruse other leads first. I agree that Blatant seems like a good choice. Vote: Blatant.

Something tells me Minos has like a 4(arms+legs?)-shot iron/unlynchable power, 2 having been used. Lynching him today wouldn't accomplish anything.

Vote:Blatant Forgot to put in the vote lol

I don't consider trying to lynch Minos yesterday as a waste of time. We'd already got one(albeit wrong) lynch for the day, the flavor clearly suggested we'd got an anti town figure. It was worth a shot trying to lynch him since we had no clue as to how much of his characteristics from the movie would be incorporated in the game.

Also, I'm pretty sure the Black Knight is scum (from what I've read on Wiki). He was anti-King Arthur, and therefore third-party scum.

@EoJ*- The Black Knight, from what I know, is not an irritant like the French, he is actually anti-Arthur. That clearly suggests third party scum to me.

Also, flavour arguments do not necessarily have to screw a player, especially if that player is both iron and unlynchable to some extent. To prove this, I refer you to Julius' arguments in RotK mafia over at BFME2H.

Minos was definitely not handed to us on a platter cause, as you can see, despite 3 attempts on him now he's still not dead. A better/more active player would've been able to prevent prior attacks. Its just Minos' fault that he's inactive.

All in all, I would support a move to finish off Minos as soon as possible, but only through NKs.

Moving on, I agree with CV, Blatant definitely seems like a good lynch at this point.

Vote: Blatant

*Too many quotes regarding the same topic, so I decided to address it directly.

I think I recall Blatant claiming, so I won't cast my vote until someone brings up his claim.

To prove this, I refer you to Julius' arguments in RotK mafia over at BFME2H

Touche.

However, I must say that if we must do him, do it with night kills

What I think about the Black Night is: regardless of what he actually is, we should somehow kill him. Whatever he is, I don't think he benefits us. But if Minos wants to save himself, he should be active and rolecall.

Quoted from EoJ 1297:

However, I must say that if we must do him, do it with night kills

Quoted from Me 1295:

All in all, I would support a move to finish off Minos as soon as possible, but only through NKs.

Already accounted for.

Although I must admit, Julius isn't a fair example, that guy was an absolute freak.

I was just trying to make a point that we should stop debating over whether he's scum/anti-town/third-party.