Anyhow, I don't think heroes have to be fighters; and not including Archimedes in the game would be a crime against humanity.

The Han

Bonuses:
Bonus 1 - "Silk Road" All trade 50% more profitable
Bonus 2 - "Qiān Jūn Wàn Ma" All Han soldier units build in groups, but with equal train times to if they were built one-by-one
Bonus 3 - "Banks of the Yellow River" A free peasant arrives when a farm is built; Han peasants are marginally less productive than those of other civs

Units:
Villager Citizen/Peasant - Nóng fū (Age 1)
Villager Merchant - Gu (Age 3)

Infantry Militia - Zhàn Ting (Age 1) -> Zhàn Yue (Age 2) -> Zhàn Shì (Age 3)
Infantry Spearman - Zhàn Qiāng (Age 2) -> Zhàn Tán (Age 3) -> Zhàn Máo (Age 4)
Infantry Swordman - Zhàn Mò (Age 2) -> Zhàn Kūn (Age 3)

Ranged Skirmisher - Biāo Qiāng (Age 2)
Ranged Bowman - Gōng Jiàn Shou (Age 2) -> Bīng Shì Nu (Age 3) -> Shenbi Nu (Age 4)
* Age 3 and Age 4 bowmen are really crossbowmen, and the age 4 crossbowman holds a large tower shield

Cavalry Scout - Tàn (Age 2)
Cavalry Swordman - Qí Shī (Age 3) -> Yì Qí Shī (Age 4)
Cavalry Skirmisher - Qí Bīng (Age 3) -> Kuài Qí Bīng (Age 4)

Healer Priest - Chì (Age 2)
Spy/Assassin/Diplomatic Unit - Jiàn Dié (Age 3)

Siege Stone Thrower - Hu Dūn Pào (Age 4)
Siege Bolt Thrower - Chuangzi Nu (Age 3) -> Wéi Chéng Chuangzi Nu (age 4)
Siege Tower - Yun Ti Che (Age 3) -> Chong Che (Age 4)
* Age 3 Siege Tower is nothing more than this, whereas Age 4 Siege Tower is the more impressive this.

Ship Fishing - Yú Chuán (Age 2)
Ship Trading - Ba Shì (Age 2)
Ship Light - Jiàn (Age 2) -> Ship Medium - Jiān Zhī (Age 3)
Ship Siege - Lou Chuan (Age 4)

Unique Civilian Unit - Shang Ren (Age 4)
* A significantly faster and more effective land trader than the standard merchant/Gu
Unique Military Unit 1 - Fén (Age 4)
* A heavily-armoured chariot unit housing 3 men - a driver, a pikeman and a crossbowman. The pikeman can attack anything immediately next to the chariot, whereas the archer naturally has a longer range. However, to avoid both crossbowman and pikeman attacking at once, the crossbowman has a minimum range. Slower than the Qí Bīng.
Unique Military Unit 2 - None

Hero 1 - Han Xin
* Infantry hero - All enemies in LOS have -50% speed
Hero 2 - Ban Chao
* Cavalry hero - Allied cavalry in LOS have a bit more speed and a 1.5x damage multiplayer vs villagers
Hero 3 - Liu Xiu
* All peasants in LOS have increased gather rates; all allied soldiers have increased attack speed

Buildings:
Town Center ::
Government Building ::
Market :: Chán
House :: Fáng
Temple :: Sì Miào
Storehouse :: Cāng
Mining Camp :: Kuàng Chang
Granary :: Ao
Farmland :: Nóng Tián
Livestock Pen :: Yang Chù Chang
Outpost Tower :: Dū
Palisade Wall :: Jiàn
Palisade Gate :: Hàn
Stone Wall :: Cheng Qiáng
Stone Wall Tower :: Lóu
Stone Wall Gate :: Cheng Mén
Emissary :: Shi Zhě
Smith :: Tiě Jiang
Barracks:: Bīng Yíng
Archery Range :: Ba Chang
Stable :: Jiù
Siege Workshop :: Chē Jiān
Naval Yard (ships) :: Ma tóu
Citadel :: Biān Sài
Academy :: Jūn Xiào

Wonder - Bao Ta
* Massive Pagoda strongly increasing all aspects of economy over a large area - villager/priest/merchant train times, gather rates, etc, are increased

Unique Building Economic/Civic - Chāng Huì
* Provides a trickle of gold, similar to the Dutch bank in AOE3, but not nearly as much. Each Chāng Huì has a large radius in which another Chāng Huì cannot be built.

Unique Techs:
Unique Tech 1 - Bīng Qiáng Ma Zhuàng (Age 4)
* increases armour of cavalry and infantry
Unique Tech 2 - Shi Liú (Age 4)
* Increase range and damage of all ranged units
Unique Tech 3 - Quán Mín (Age 3)
* Decreases cost of economic buildings

Disadvantages
-Weak Navy
-Weak Siege
-Trade units are a lot weaker than other civs' trade units, yet the Han rely on them a lot

Advantages
-Good boomers
-Peasants are numerous and have a larger build limit than those of other civs
-Able to field large armies quickly, given enough resources

It could use some polishing - that's what you guys are for!

[This message has been edited by MudokonGod (edited 08-09-2006 @ 01:32 PM).]

Deeper insight later.

Makes me want to finish those damn Persians.

Suggestions for another or a replacement unique military unit would be good. I added the chariot, but they were being used less and less in the Han era, and a few other civs seem to have chariots...

Quote:

Actually, the Chinese did have early repeating crossbows in the Han Dynasty, invented by the time of Zhuge Liang, 181-234, but there are even earlier prototypes that date back to 250 B.C.

I wasn't aware of even earlier prototypes.

Well, the repeating crossbow might have been in use in B.C. as evident by records in the buried library of Chu.

ive always wanted an aoe1 remake...

[This message has been edited by egel (edited 08-10-2006 @ 01:17 AM).]

Now, I just have to get to my Assyrians. Been pretty busy lately at Wildfire Games.

EDIT: (Hours later...)
EDIT: 22nd August - Balanced the CIV more after reading other researches.

Oh hell ive done it anyway, spent all night on this!

The Seleucid - By Hosko

Bonuses:
Bonus 1 - Town Centers, markets, docks and goverment centre -25% Build time
Bonus 2 - Synallat Ship, Imporyos Villager 10% faster,
Bonus 3 - Market, dock and town centre, train and tech faster (Age 4)

Units:
Villager Citizen/Peasant - Polytias (Age 1)
Villager Slave - None
Villager Colonist - Taccidyotis (Age 3)
Villager Merchant - Imporyos (Age 3)

Infantry Militia - Clubman (Age 1) -> Axeman (Age 2)
Infantry Spearman - None

Ranged Slinger - Sphendonêtês (Age 2)
Ranged Skirmisher - Peltastai (Age 3)
Ranged Bowman - Toxote (Age 3) -> Syrian Toxote (Age 4)

Cavalry Scout - Light Hetairoi (Age 3)
Cavalry Spearman - Chariot (Age 3) -> Scyth Chariot (Age 4)
Cavalry Skirmisher - Achaemenid Cavalry (Age 3) -> Heavy Achaemenids Cavalry (Age 4)

Healer Priest - Erasistratos (Age 3)
Spy/Assassin/Diplomatic Unit - Megasthenes (Age 3)

Siege Stone Thrower - None
Siege Bolt Thrower - Ballista (Age 3)
Siege Tower - Helepolis Siege Tower

Ship Fishing - Psaras (Age 2)
Ship Trading - Synêllat (Age 2)-> Improved Synêllat (Age 3)
Ship Light - Trireme (Age 3)
Ship Siege - None

Unique Civilian Unit - None
Unique Military Unit 1 - Maurya Elephants (Age 3)
* Eastern War Elephants; heavy armer
Unique Military Unit 2 - Phalangite (Age 4)
* Elite phalanxes; extended sarissa (pole)

Hero 1 - Seleucus I
* All Maurya War Elephants within LOS 25% increased attack
Hero 2 - Antiochus III The Great
* All cavalry within LOS 10% increased speed and attack
Hero 3 - Philip II Philoromaeus
* All buildings within LOS train/tech; faster

Buildings:
Town Center :: Poly Crôno
Government Building :: Tholos
Market :: Agori
House :: Domato
Temple :: Krotiysh
Storehouse :: Evodyaso
Mining Camp :: Ergyon
Granary :: Stathmosê
Farmland :: Agros
Livestock Pen :: Stavelos
Outpost Tower :: Prolakyo
Palisade Wall :: Scharac
Palisade Gate :: Scharacopulê
Stone Wall :: Lithoteichos
Stone Wall Tower :: Lithokyo
Stone Wall Gate :: Lithopulê
Emissary :: Presbeutikos
Smith :: Chalkyus
Barracks:: Polymôs
Archery Range :: Tocsoulky
Stable :: Ippos ô
Siege Workshop :: Dysosemul
Naval Yard (ships) :: lymani
Citadel :: Cyvismul
Academy :: Gymescis

Wonder - Apameas Seleucus (large square of Hellenistic collumns with an Iranian temple centered)
* Increases market and dock trading by 50%

Unique Building Economic/Civic - Pharnake
* Like storage pit for traded resources, Imporyos Villagers deposit traded goods in it (Therefore it will be placed between their city amd their trading spot)
Unique Building Military - None

Unique Techs:
Unique Tech 1 - Vows Of Ivory (Age 3)
* Maurya War Elephants cost 50% less and have decreased training time.
Unique Tech 2 - Anabasis (Age 4)
* Increases attack of cavalry against opposing cavalry units.
Unique Tech 3 - Syrian Spirit(Age 4)
* Walls and towers get increased HP's
Unique Tech 4 - Megasthenes Eye
* See technological improvements made by all allies

Strengths:
- Strong cavalry and special units.
- Good onland and seaborne trading.
- Technologies greatly improve allied bonds and special units.

Weaknesses:
- Weak, defenseless navy.
- Poor infantry, bowmen and seige weapons.
- Weakest in Age 1.

If theres anything that needs improving or touching up, just quote it and il touch it right up, otherwise I hope its ok.
Alot of the names mentioned are from actual Seleucid people, places and important happenings, others names are derived from Hellenic and Macedonian, with rough translations into Seleucid language.

[This message has been edited by Hosko (edited 08-21-2006 @ 09:13 PM).]

ive been busy with school so i havnt been able to put much time in this, but im still working on it

Plus its hard to find names for the units/buildings of the Sumerians since they never had really a "language"

[This message has been edited by KingSteve3721 (edited 08-22-2006 @ 11:24 AM).]

I started making an AOE remake three years ago, but since then it has 'evolved' into an entirely new game. Besides, I like watching you guys go through the same stuff I did!

I just have a bit of advice.

Stat-increasing bonuses are nice, but they sometimes make gameplay a little less interesting and a little more constricted.
Just think about how they do it in AOE3.

Take this Yamoto bonus for example:

BONUS-Fishing ships gather much faster

And make it something new, such as a UU, tech, or even a more unique 'bonus', such as getting free fishing ships with every dock built, or allowing the Yamoto player to build docks and fishing ships earlier than other players.
Keep it exciting.

This also helps in balancing. The Yamoto bonus only serves as a handicap to the player, since most maps emphasize land. Making the bonus something else also allows the player to choose if he wants to go that route, which increases flexibility.

I found it best to get rid of stat-increasing bonuses all together, but you needn't take my advice.

-CT

P.S. perhaps I could do a civ?

[This message has been edited by Cassador_Chris (edited 08-23-2006 @ 10:21 PM).]

Parhaps, then we'd have some experience in our project!