I'd like to give up my Thracian and Egyptians. Someone else can do those. All I'll have time for is the Indians. Sorry.

What about the Silver Shields and Katafraktoi?

Sorry?

Explain?

Ill ad them if I knew a little more, I did all the research I could find.

[This message has been edited by Dieneces (edited 08-24-2006 @ 09:25 PM).]

Got a nice selection of unique units to choose from.

Oh, should the Egyptians be Ptolemy-era? or New Kingdom-era? They had radically different militaries.

[This message has been edited by Mythos_Ruler (edited 08-25-2006 @ 02:07 AM).]

Silver shield as in he litterally carries a shield made out of silver or is it some form of technology?

[This message has been edited by Brocktree101 (edited 08-25-2006 @ 10:21 AM).]

That is all.

Dudes is anyone answering me. I want to join, but I am only good at Germania (I'm german by the way!)and Greece, but not as good as Diences of couse (I saw your Aom site). I guess I could do Thracian. Can someone share with me. Or at least speak to me! If you don't believe me look at the this:

Germanians : The Germanians are in my opinion possibly the strongest infantry civilization. They have good warriors and mercenaries to fight enemies and have two types of villagers, but the only bad side is they don't have a strong economy or ranged units.

Villager Citizen: Peasant
Villager Slave: Thrall
Villager Merchant: Tradesman

Infantry Militia: Clubman (Age 1)-> Axeman (Age 2)-> Dual Axeman (Age 3)
Infantry Spearman: Kontos (Age 3)-> Cimbri Kontos (Age 4)
Infantry Swordsman: Seaxman (Age 2)-> Langseaxman (Age 3)-> Suebii Huskarl (Age 4)
Ranged Skirmisher: Velite (Age 2)-> Heavy Velite (Age 3)-> Chatti Velite (Age 4)
Ranged Bowman: Yoeman (Age 2)-> Marcomanni Warder (Age 4)

Cavalry Scout: Bructeri Scout (Age 2)
Cavalry Spearman: Night Raider (Age 2)-> Midnight Raider (Age 3)
Cavalry Swordsman: Proeliator (Age 3)-> Cheruscian Proeliator (Age 4)
Cavalry Skirmisher: Fremean (Age 3)-> Chauci Fremean (Age 3)

Healer Priest: Soothsayer

Spy/Assassin/Diplomatic Unit: Ostrogoth Agent

Siege Stone Thrower: Catapult (Age 3)-> Armored Catapult (Age 4)
Siege Tower: Battle Tower
Siege Ram: Hand Ram (Age 4)-> Capped Ram (Age 4)

Ship Fishing and Trading: Knorr
Ship Transport and Light: Skuder-> War Skuder
Ship Siege: Drekkar-> Dragon Ship

Unique Civilian Unit: Veteran (Age 3): Veterans can train units to be stronger. In Ancient Germania, they helped plan raids and battles.

Unique Military Unit 1: Berserker (Age 3): Berserkers were the strongest warriors in the army. They wield a Battleaxe and can 'charge enemies' just like Arminius and go beserk on enemies.

Unique Military Unit 2: Gothic Conscript (Age 4): Gothic Conscript Riders were mercenary raiders from Visigoth territories and were famous for ambushing Roman patrols for Germans or vise versa. They are very expensive
,but are very fast and can toggle between bow and spear.

Hero 1: Arminius : The young Germanic hero of the Cherusci Tribe that destroyed 3 Legions+ with only a group of German Berserkers, Yeoman, and Jarls. Can choose to mount or dismount, gives units a morale upgrade and can 'charge enemies' (such as the dwarves in Bfme2).

Hero 2: Vannius : The leader of the Marcomanni tribe that led a war against Marcus Aurelius and ley siege to the Danube outposts and northern Italy. I wields a spear.

Hero 3: Odovacer : The seasoned soldier who fought in the Byzantine and Roman army to learn how to beat it. Can train Gothic Hammers and gets four Huskarls per minute he lives.

Hero 4: Alaric the Goth : A Gothic General that supervised the first sacking of Rome and Ravenna. Gives units a morale upgrade and can summon a group of Gothic Conscripts for a limited time.

Buildings: The Germanian unique buildings are wicked cool! The Gothic Tavern is a major boom to the military by adding mercenary Gothic warriors (permenant by the way) to the battle. And speaking of battle, the Front provides defense to a land and can transport men from one front to the other, covering major ground. Also, the healing well can moderately heal units to save money making more.

Town Center: Tribal Center
Government Building: Elder's Counsil
Market: Bazaar
House
Temple
Storehouse
Mining Camp: Mine
Granary: Lodge
Farmland: Pasture
Livestock Pen: Pig Keeper's
Outpost Tower
Palisade Wall
Palisade Gate
Sandstone Wall
Sandstone Wall Tower
Sandstone Wall Gate
Smith: Armorey
Barracks: Hall of Warriors
Archery Range: Archer's Camp
Stable
Siege Workshop: Siege Works
Naval Yard: Shipwright
Citadel: Fortress
Academy: Headquarters

Unique Building Military: Gothic Tavern - The Gothic Tavern is used to train mercenary Gothic warriors.

Unique Building Military: Front - The Front is a defense building that can transport units from front to front (such as mine or tunnel in Bfme2).

Unique Economic building: Healing Well - The Healing Well heals military units.

Unique Techs

Economic/Civic: Stolen Treasure - Germans weren't fond of getting money the honest way, so
whenever they killed an enemy patrol, they stripped it of weapons and armor. For every
enemy military unit killed, 5 coins are added to your pile.

Military: Berzerkergang - To get that extra boost in battle, Berserkers or other soldiers
would drink a potion called Wolf Brew to get them 'beserk' in battle. All infantry get a
+20 attack bonus.

Military: Crackshot Quick Kill - Agents and Ranged warriors weren't always properly trained to kill en masse, so they trained them to kill with one strike for a small amount of time before returning to normal attacking. All ranged units and Ostrogoth Agents can kill with one strike for 5 seconds.

Any: Barbarian Structures - Germanians were sometimes nomads, so in order to build things quickly
enough, they trained Thralls to build fast and cruder buildings to save time. Thralls build 30%
faster.

Wonder: Tower of Wodin

Advantages

Strong Infantry, Fast builings, Good Heroes

Disadvantages

Bad Ranged, Weaker buildings, Weak Siege weapons

[This message has been edited by Brocktree101 (edited 05-03-2007 @ 08:37 PM).]

Bonus 1 - Ka: Don’t need resource depots. All resources are immediately added to your stockpile. Villagers are more expensive, weaker, and gather slower.
Bonus 2 - The Fourth Cataract: Two Nekhet (fortresses) can be built, instead of just one.
Bonus 3 - Pharaoh’s Retainers: Can call upon 7 Retainers from each TC once to defend. Retainers are just super strong versions of Khopeshman, with no counter, but they steadily loose HP.

~Villager Citizen/Peasant->Niewtey
~Villager Slave->Bak
~Villager Colonist->N/A (why in earth would anyone want to leave Egypt??)
~Villager Merchant->Shewtay
~Infantry Militia->Clubman->Maceman->Axeman
~Infantry Spearman->N/A
~Infantry Swordsman->Khopeshman->Veteran Khopeshman->Brave of the King
~Ranged Slinger->Throwstick Hunter->Sling Hunter
Ranged Skirmisher->N/A
~Ranged Bowman-> W’yt Archer->Veteran W’yt Archer->Guard W’yt Archer
~Cavalry Scout->N/A
Cavalry Spearman->N/A
Cavalry Swordsman->N/A
Cavalry Skirmisher->N/A
~Cavalry Archer->N/A
~Healer Priest->N/A
~Spy/Assassin/Diplomatic Unit-> Tjatey (vizier)
Siege Stone Thrower->N/A
Siege Bolt Thrower->N/A
~Siege Tower->Wooden Siege Tower
Siege Ram->N/A
~Ship Fishing->Reed Skiff
~Ship Trading->Nmiw
~Ship Light ->Keftiu
~Ship Medium->Kebentui
Ship Siege->N/A

~Unique Civilian Unit->Priest of Ra (priest who also act as scouts, build Obelisks)
~Unique Military Unit-> Wrrt (Superb anti-cavalry soldier)
~Unique Military Unit-> Wrrt Runner (Super fast javelin-wielding infantry, Beefs up Wrrt HP within LOS, good versus cavalry.

~Hero 1 Ramesses->Chariot hero, tramples over scores of units. Sniper ability.
~Hero 2 King Menes->Infantry hero, trains up to 10 Retainers (who don’t loose hit points!!)
~Hero 3 Nefertiti->Heals all units within a certain radius of her. No attack.

Town Center->Niwet (city)
Government Building->Per-aa
Market
House->Per
Temple->Hewet-netjer
Storehouse->N/A
Mining Camp->Ikey-set (stonemason station)
Granary->N/A
Farmland->Kemet (Black Land, Egyptian name for Egypt)
Livestock Pen
Outpost Tower->Khetem
Palisade Wall->Khet-ineb (wood wall)
Palisade Gate->Khet-re-it (wood entrance)
Stone Wall
Stone Wall Tower->Bekhen
Stone Wall Gate
Emissary->Ha-unebu Camp
Smith->
Barracks->Per-wa'ew (soldier house)
Archery Range
Stable->N/A
Siege Workshop->N/A
Naval Yard->A'ha'ew-set (navy station)
Citadel->Nekwet
Academy->Nesew-Wrrt (King('s)Chariots)

Wonder-> Pyramid of Khufu

Unique Building-> Obelisk (temporary structures invisible to the enemy, built by Priests of Ra, they have a huge LOS)
Unique Building-> Mortuary Temple (research unique villager techs)
Unique Building-> Sphinx (limit 1, makes pyramid wonder stronger)

Unique Tech 1 (Age 1) Funerary Rites (villagers gather faster, stronger, less expensive.)
Unique Tech 2 (Age 2) Canopic Jars (villagers gather faster, are stronger, less expensive)
Unique Tech 3 (Age 3) Eye of Horus/Wedjat (villagers gather faster, are stronger, less expensive)
Unique Tech 4 (Age 4) Opet Festival (villagers gather faster, are stronger, less expensive)
***at this point, your villagers reach the standard of other civ's villagers, so you get full advantage of instant resources***
Unique Tech 5 (Age 3) Maryannu (Wrrt are more effective against cavalry.)
Unique Tech 6 (Age 2) Shabtis (Increases the amount of Retainers you can summon from 7 to 14, can summon Retainers again.)

Heres my basic idea. I built them with a defensive tilt. Tell me what you guys think. OP? UP? OK?

I'm having a bit of trouble with finding Egyptian translation sites, since most deal with Hieroglyphs. Not to mention I can't pronounce them...I mean, look at the word for chariot! lol.

P.S. I'll give you guys a short history for each of the terms I used, if thats okay.

[This message has been edited by Cassador_Chris (edited 01-26-2007 @ 08:40 PM).]

But I can't help you with getting Germany. Just design it and get it posted. I think BluntAxe was going to take his time. So, you might get lucky.

[This message has been edited by Brocktree101 (edited 08-27-2006 @ 05:26 PM).]

[This message has been edited by Brocktree101 (edited 08-29-2006 @ 10:41 AM).]

All you newer designers. I urge you to focus on the unique aspects of your civilisations. For instance, the Seleucids, they look too much like Greeks and Macedonians for my taste (peltasts etc.). Try to go for an ethnic feel.

Brock: Your Germanians have one too many Unique Military Units. 1 UC and 2 UM units allowed per civ.

[This message has been edited by Mythos_Ruler (edited 08-29-2006 @ 01:10 PM).]

[This message has been edited by Brocktree101 (edited 08-29-2006 @ 02:20 PM).]