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Mythic_Freak
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posted 01 February 2009 11:53 AM EDT (US)

So you have a ~~question~~ trigger request?

You can post it here!

Hello and welcome to the Trigger Request Thread (TRT). This thread's purpose is only to place trigger requests and discuss them. If you have unrelated questions or need help with triggers, please use Azur's thread!

Before posting your request, it's always good to read the so-called FAQ.

What is a FAQ?
The term "FAQ" (when pronounced, it rhymes with "back") is an acronym for Frequently Asked Questions.
How do I install a trigger?
When we have finished making your trigger, we'll post the required code here. To install this code you will first of all need to find your way to the AoM installation folder. C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Age of Mythology by default). Now open the trigger folder if you intend to use the trigger in vanilla, or open the trigger2 folder if you use The Titans expansion. Next, open the file called typetest.xml. The only thing left to do is copy the code at the right position and save. If you requested a condition, then place the line above < /Conditions>, if you requested an effect paste it right above < /Effects>. Note the "s" at the end of both tags.

Notes:
1. When copying the trigger from someone please click first and only then copy the required code.
2. If you're still uncomfortable with installing triggers please backup the original typetest file, i.e. copy the original to another folder.
How do I uninstall a trigger?
If a trigger happens to be faulty or if it generates errors you better remove it. Just do as if you were installing a new trigger, but instead of copy-pasting new code, remove the code corresponding with the chosen trigger. Make sure to remove it completely, including the starting < effect > or < condition > tag and the corresponding < /effect > or < /condition > closing tag. Failure to do so properly will cause XML errors in the file making ALL triggers in that file inaccessbile for AoM.
So... How exactly are new triggers made?
AoM has a built-in engine that can parse XS code. Triggers are programmed and interpreted using this language through a series of existing functions. Since there are over 600 functions, and only a few are used by the default triggers, this leaves plenty of room for a whole new set of advanced, useful triggers.
Can I request anything?
Although we can do a lot with today's knowledge, there are still limitation we won't ever get around. So if you think of a cool new trigger, make sure to post a request but don't forget you might get a negative reply. Commonly requested triggers that are not possible include (but are not limited to):
- Modify Unit: change the stats of 1 particular unit.
- Change Playername
- Change Major God
- Transform ALL units on map for player
- I'll add more when I think of them.
I want to learn trigger scripting, how do I do that?
It takes quite some time, but if you really want to learn trigger coding, we recommend fully understanding XS language before you start making triggers. Therefore, go here: Master XS (WIP). If you want to skip all that, and you want to be able to create only simple triggers, read this guide.
Help! My triggers have stopped working!
Triggers Stop Working Guide. Also linking camera tracks, using Run Immediately, sound timers and decimals in conditions like Timer and Distance to Unit effect, might cause this. Moreover, typing an invalid name on the Victory Conditions will cause a trigger block. But post these sort of questions in the Great Question thread.

Resources
Recommended Downloads:

Trigger Loader 2 + Quest Vars (AoM && TT) by invent00r and Mythic_Freak
SomeNewXTriggers 3 (TT) & SomeNewTriggers 4 (AoM) by Reyk
Proactive Triggers (TT & AoM) by invent00r
Advanced Triggers Set (TT) by pftq
New Custom Triggers (TT) by Baseballkid14
Nottud's Latest Triggers by nottud
Conditonal Effects (TT & AoM) by nottud
Angry Levels (TT & AoM) by angryzor
SIMSTools (TT) by angryzor
Target Protounit Query by HailToTheOboe

Miscellaneous:

First TRT by invent00r
Trigger Templates by Mephiles
A list of all guides sorted by Paperfriend

Posting a Request
So you have read the FAQ and want to post a request? OK, go for it, just be sure to use the following format:

Name - This should be as straightforward as possible. Try to comply with today's standards.
Description - Always describe the actions that you want the trigger to perform. 
Example - Optional. An example can be a great help when requesting complex triggers.


[b]Name[/b] - 
[b]Description[/b] - 
[b]Example[/b] -

We might even ignore posts in other formats if we're in a bad mood

Remember that not all triggers are possible but we will try our best.

Unfinished Requests
Unit Patrol by Bingo Little
Army Wander by Endarron
QV Damage Units in QV area by name by mrjonathan0
Unit Heading Towards Unit by dwieeb
Damage units in Area by % (has been done before?) by Steak And Khan
Most Units In Area by Sir_Hans
QV Modify x by satansfall
Move from area to random area by Mister SCP
Set Unit Formation by aZeusDude2
Army Deploy Random Myth Unit by bgan
QV Randomize Series by Alexgd92
Convert all except protounit (or unit) by Joshonator
SET Ambient Colour/Sun Colour/Sun Specular/Terrain Ambient Fade Version by andrewv42
Damage units near army by AJER
QV count units in area with state by AuroraP
QV Grant random resources per stat by AuroraP
Condition: Random Timer by SwordOfValor
Army deploy in line by SwordOfValor
Condition: unit (type/in area) worked on other unit. by WinstonShnozwick
Gruoup selected by Guard of Olympus
Pick Unit by XxXItachiXxX
Modify Protounit All Percent by AuroraP
Random Forest by Bubble Finished Requests
Damage Units near protounit for sneaky_squirrel & mrjonathan0
Move units from area to unit for Azur
Clear Chat History of Player & Chat Contains Anything for Lewonas
QV Change unit type by ID for Yeebaagooon
Move to QV Unit for Yeebaagoon
QV Modify Protounit for Xzyiothe
Player Kill GP Slot for Titanic Kraken
Move all player units for Anstar
Protounit Change Name for Dimir_Guildmage
Shop start/end with max for Mephiles
Diplomacy trigger for Yeebaagooon
Diplomacy both ways trigger for Yeebaagooon
Modify protounit trigger for Yeebaagooon
Convert trigger for Yeebaagooon
Make all units have no bonuses for Brighty
Conditional Army Units in Area for Sneaky_Squirrel
GROUP Select 2 for AuroraP
Send QV Color Chat for Alexgd92
Quest Var xModify for Alexgd92
QV Randomize 4 amounts for Alexgd92
QV Set Population Count for Beelzebub
Units in area of army for SwordOfValor
Damage units in area of army for SwordOfValor
AG with armies for SwordOfValor
Army deploy QV Count for Silicone Ruff Jr
Quest Var set rank for gunner1
Convert units in area to random player for Zorx
Units Change Name By Type for beerad
Army deploy where the units facing for SwordOfValor
Unit Heading Towards Unit for Noble
Convert Random Units In Selection for xEXOLARx
QV Set Units in Area (Center Army) for SwordOfValor
Move Units from Area (action) for SwordOfValor

Enjoy.
Last updated: 03 september 2009

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[This message has been edited by Mythic_Freak (edited 01-16-2010 @ 08:01 AM).]

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AuroraP
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posted 17 September 2009 04:41 PM EDT (US) 851 / 2506

Unit create around unit doesn't work for me neither :

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HailToTheOboe
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posted 17 September 2009 10:35 PM EDT (US) 852 / 2506

I don't need to, because Army Deploy to Unit should be working perfectly, I'm sure I've used it hundreds (maybe thousands?) of times and never had a single problem, but in case you broke something I can paste the original code again

<Effect name="Army Deploy to Unit">
<Param name="SrcArmy" dispName="Army" varType="group">default</Param>
<Param name="ProtoName" dispName="ProtoName" varType="protounit">Villager</Param>
<Param name="Object" dispName="Target Unit" varType="unit">default</Param>
<Param name="Count"  dispName="Count" varType="string">0</Param>
<Param name="Heading"  dispName="Heading" varType="string">0</Param>
<Param name="Clear" dispName="Clear Existing Units:" varType="bool">true</Param>
<Command>trQuestVarSet("fhweaohpgpagowhwa", xsGetContextPlayer());</Command>
<Command>xsSetContextPlayer(0);</Command>
<Command>kbLookAtAllUnitsOnMap();</Command>
<Command>trArmyDispatch("%SrcArmy%", "%ProtoName%", %Count%, xsVectorGetX(kbGetBlockPosition(""+1*%Object%)),xsVectorGetY(kbGetBlockPosition(""+1*%Object%)),xsVectorGetZ(kbGetBlockPosition(""+1*%Object%)), %Heading%, %Clear%);</Command>
<Command>xsSetContextPlayer(trQuestVarGet("fhweaohpgpagowhwa"));</Command>
</Effect>

straight from pftq's triggers, untouched.

edit: actually, I just noticed that the "Unit Create At Unit" in my version of pftq's triggers is not the same as the one that Elrich posted, but I know I never touched it in the xml file. I guess there's a different version out there with broken triggers. Maybe instead of taking these individual triggers from me you're better off downloading pftqs triggers again.

edit edit: Mythic's trigger works fine for me. Make sure the trigger that contains "activate trigger loader" was created before the trigger that contains "Unit create around unit"

[This message has been edited by HailToTheOboe (edited 09-17-2009 @ 11:23 PM).]

Guard of Olympus
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posted 18 September 2009 02:42 AM EDT (US) 853 / 2506

Yes, the activate trigger loader was created before the other trigger. Could it have anything to do with prioritys? Should the "Activate Trigger Loader" be unactive or looped or run imidently or whatever?

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Guard of Osiris
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posted 18 September 2009 02:49 AM EDT (US)     854 / 2506

I think "activate trigger loader" should be at high priority, and the "Unit Create around Unit" should have normal priority.
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Guard of Olympus
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posted 18 September 2009 02:52 AM EDT (US)     855 / 2506

Still isn't working :/
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Guard of Osiris
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posted 18 September 2009 02:56 AM EDT (US)     856 / 2506

Well, I know nothing about this kind of stuff, but I think it is pretty logical that a trigger that needs the trigger loader to run can't be activated before the trigger loader.
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lostrozzacavalli
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posted 18 September 2009 09:27 AM EDT (US)     857 / 2506

This is a request to who know how to make triggers.

Is there anyone who can teach me the basics of create triggers and then maybe also the advanced?

I think I'd be a good student: I'm patient and I really want learn more about make triggers.

If anyone is intrested, here there is my MSN: scacchisti@hotmail.it
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Elrich
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posted 18 September 2009 10:30 AM EDT (US)     858 / 2506

@Guard of Olympus: Like Hail said, you have to make sure the activate trigger loader trigger comes before the one that is going to use it. This has nothing to do with priority. You can tell which trigger is 'before' the other by clicking on the trigger list in the Fire Event effect. The order that they are in from top to bottom tells you which trigger is before (towards the top) than others. If your activate trigger loader is below your trigger that needs the trigger loader on that list, then it is AFTER and will cause trigger lock. Here is what I would do to fix this:

COPY YOUR SCENARIO FILE BEFORE YOU DO THIS
I recommend to people that they actually email their scenario file (.scx or .scn for vanilla) to themselves after each time they work on it. That way they can comment on what they just did to the scenario and in their email software, they will have backup copies of their scenario at every step of development.

1. on a Fire Event trigger list, find out the name of the trigger that is at the top of the list and remember it. I will call it 'first trigger' from now on.

note: if any other trigger refers to this 'first trigger' using Fire Event or any other effect that has this trigger in a trigger drop down list, you will have to re-point those effects to point to the copy we are about to make, but hopefully since this should be the very first trigger you made, nothing will refer to it.

2. On the left (where you choose which trigger to edit), select that 'first trigger' so you can see its conditions and effects. Click copy on the left so that the entire trigger is copied (it will add a trigger with the name of Copy of 'first trigger').

3. While still having the 'first trigger' selected, edit that trigger to be the 'Activate Trigger Loader' trigger by changing the conditions and the effects accordingly (I haven't used the trigger loader so I can't tell you how to set it, but just set it like the other 'activate trigger loader' trigger you have already made).

4. Rename your new 'activate trigger loader' trigger so it doesn't have the same name as the 'first trigger' that you copied.

5. Find the Copy of 'first trigger' and remove the 'copy of' from the name so it is back to its original name. Since this is an exact copy, it will function like the original that you converted into the trigger loader.

6. As mentioned before, if any other trigger referred to 'first trigger' in a Fire Event trigger list, it will now be pointing to this copy of the 'Activate trigger loader' trigger instead. Change them so they are pointing to the new copy of 'first trigger' instead (which you renamed back to 'first trigger' by removing the 'copy of' part)

7. Delete your old Activate Trigger Loader trigger.

you're done.

If you want to see what Hail meant by being 'before', you can do this: Load your scenario in the editor and then hit Playtest. Once it loads, leave it running and return to windows (hit the Windows key) and then go to My Documents/My Games/Age of Mythology/Trigger2 (or trigger if you have Vanilla) and open the file Trigtemp.xs with Notepad. In there you will see your triggers laid out in the order that matches the list in the Fire Event trigger drop down box. Hopefully in the trigger section of the Trigtemp.xs file, you will see your Activate Trigger Loader trigger before the trigger that needs it. Triggers in that file are called rules and look like:

rule _Activate_Trigger_Loader

phew! hope that helps.

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Mythic_Freak
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posted 18 September 2009 10:59 AM EDT (US)     859 / 2506

Nice explanation!
Aww, no heading control as a function of position around the circle?
I was thinking about that. Shouldn't be too difficult.
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HailToTheOboe
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posted 18 September 2009 11:12 AM EDT (US)     860 / 2506

Wow, Elrich, you really are a programmer aren't you. I'd never thought of saving copies of scenarios with documentation like that. If I do something whacky I might add a note to the name.
Well, I know nothing about this kind of stuff, but I think it is pretty logical that a trigger that needs the trigger loader to run can't be activated before the trigger loader.
Actually, it doesn't matter when the trigger with activate trigger loader is fired, it just matters that it comes earlier in the trigtemp, and in the trigtemp, the triggers are listed in order of creation, so just do what Elrich said :P

The trigger loader effect can be any priority you want, and it doesn't even have to be active.

@lostrozz: I recommend the Master XS guide, it is somewhere in the scripting forum, but there are links in mythic's and invent00r's sigs, and also one in the top post.
If you have any programmign background, just leap right in and try to make your own by modifying existing triggers, copying bits and pieces from triggers and using trial and error.

We'll be happy to help.
I was thinking about that. Shouldn't be too difficult.
It's not, you could probably just take the line straight out of my circle triggers :P
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lostrozzacavalli
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posted 18 September 2009 11:45 AM EDT (US)     861 / 2506

@Hail| Yes, in fact I've already created some triggers copying existing triggers (the secret chat triggers), and now I'm reading the Master XS guide, I was only saying if someone can post his MSN so I can contact he for explainations, suggestions, ecc.

EDIT: I've now finished read the simple triggering guide and the master XS guide, and the first was really intresting, but the XS Guide actually has only a little little part about trigger scripting, am I wrong?
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Mythic_Freak
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posted 18 September 2009 02:12 PM EDT (US)     862 / 2506

Yeah, it's not finished yet. We planned to write a lot more but invent00r started with other projects instead and I haven't found the time to update it either.
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lostrozzacavalli
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posted 18 September 2009 02:31 PM EDT (US)     863 / 2506

@Mythic_Freak| I've seen the next part should have been about triggering, and I'm now searching someone or something (a guide) that teach me triggering
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THYMOLE
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posted 18 September 2009 04:25 PM EDT (US)     864 / 2506

Im not sure where i got this trigger from oboe, but i never got anny of pfqt's stuff. There were about three differences from yours and the one i had.
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HailToTheOboe
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posted 18 September 2009 04:32 PM EDT (US)     865 / 2506

I recommend at least looking at what pftq's trigger pack has to offer, there is some very good stuff in it. For example, a working version of Army Deploy to Unit.
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sneaky_squirrel
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posted 18 September 2009 10:19 PM EDT (US)     866 / 2506

I request the reposting of army deploy at army.
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posted 18 September 2009 10:33 PM EDT (US)     867 / 2506

Download proactive triggers and/or pftq's triggers. It is in both.
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Elrich
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posted 18 September 2009 10:37 PM EDT (US)     868 / 2506

All this talk about versions of triggers. Makes me wish there some utility that kept track of triggers where you could see them all together and post them translated to forum code automatically, I don't know a sort of..trigger manager, eh Hail?

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sneaky_squirrel
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posted 19 September 2009 01:20 AM EDT (US)     869 / 2506

Now I require of:

God Power invoke Multi - army version
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nottud
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posted 19 September 2009 03:13 AM EDT (US)     870 / 2506

Use my loop triggers to do multi triggers. Put a loop start and how many then a loop end afterwards. Saves loads of triggers being made.
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posted 19 September 2009 03:25 AM EDT (US)     871 / 2506

I need one condition and one effect, I do not know if these are possible.

Condition name: Unit carrying resource
Condition: It checks if a unit is carrying an x amount of a resource.

Effect name: Clear Unit resource
Effect: Makes the unit 'drop'(clear them) the resource that they are carrying.
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posted 19 September 2009 06:46 AM EDT (US)     872 / 2506

Please can someone tell me where get a list of all possible "tr" (like trModifyProtounit, trUnitTeleport...)?
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posted 19 September 2009 08:29 AM EDT (US)     873 / 2506

The trigger coder's best friend:
http://aom.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=7883
@Jdmino, I don't know about the condition, but you can probably achieve the effect by using an already existing one like change unit type (to the same unit) or convert to another player and back. You can definitely drop resources with immediate garrison, but then you also have to bring the unit back.

@squirrel, multiple castings of the same GP, or different GPs at the same spot? It's possible but I'm gone for the weekend so you may get it done faster just by doing invoke GP at army a couple times. If you don't have invoke GP at army, you can do Army Position to QV Vector + Invoke GP at QV vector.
I could code it later, though.
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Guard of Olympus
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posted 19 September 2009 08:36 AM EDT (US)     874 / 2506

Thank you, Elrich, but it won't work. I did a test with only the "Activate trigger loader" and a message. It was a trigger lock, so I obviously instlled the trigger loader wrong. Shouldn't the two XMLfiles go to the "trigger2" folder?
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lostrozzacavalli
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posted 19 September 2009 08:52 AM EDT (US)     875 / 2506

Thanks Hail I've found what I was was searching
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